(L) Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean

[SQA]

Originally Posted by duckroll

Beats me. It's just a rumor that's making the rounds, and since we don't really have any other leaks or definitive information to go on I just thought I would mention it. Not that it really matters. Maybe we'll find out more in future if there are interviews and stuff about the show.

It's either Satou or Kyoda until we get some other word. Or it might actually be a split set of a few people, given some scheduling problems or something.

If we'd be looking for a solid writer around BONES for series comp, that isn't Satou or Kyoda but that worked on the first series, the actual logical guess would be Ohnogi Hiroshi. He wrote 10 scripts on Eureka 7, has a long history working in Mecha series (he was one of the founders of the Macross world, I believe), did series comp on FMA Brotherhood & Noein (one of the most consistent sci-fi series you'll come across), worked with Kyoda on RahXephon and was working with BONES as recently as No. 6.

Ohnogi would be a perfectly solid choice to be series comp, if Satou couldn't. But he's also a big enough of a name to not have to use a pen-name. (He scripted the William & Martha episode, a personal favorite, too) I still think the name has some meaning, in Japanese word play, that's actually slightly important to the story. We just have to figure it out, haha.

[duckroll]

I don't think it is Dai Sato, because he runs his own company of scriptwriters, and it doesn't make sense for him to use a pen name when working on a big production like this would get him and his stable of writers more publicity and possibly more work.

Kyoda is a very possible choice, because after his solo writing attempt on the Eureka 7 movie, there was quite a bit of negative reaction to it, and he himself seemed aware that he fell short of expectations use to a lack of experience. Maybe he's using a pen name for the writing credit here to prevent preconceptions based on that. After all, he is already credited as the director, so he isn't missing out on being credited on the show.

I also agree that there is meaning to the pen name itself, especially the extremely unusual way it is officially pronounced (now that Aikawa has clarified how the name is actually written). There's definitely a hint there imo, I just don't see what it is right now.

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by duckroll

Hmmm... there's a rumor going around that the series composition and script credits for the unknown dude is a pen name for Fumihiko Takayama...

Why would someone who's relatively obscure in the first place need a pen name?

Kyouda seems like the most likely candidate to me. But if the writing continues to be as good as it was in the first two eps, it could be an 11 year-old from Portugal for all I care.

[Dextro]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Why would someone who's relatively obscure in the first place need a pen name?

Kyouda seems like the most likely candidate to me. But if the writing continues to be as good as it was in the first two eps, it could be an 11 year-old from Portugal for all I care.

Nope, I don't think my younger cousin is writing this.

[Dhomochevsky]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Why would someone who's relatively obscure in the first place need a pen name?

Protection from otaku-rage?

The hardcore fanbase can be scary at times.

[Xagzan]

Finally got around to the second episode. It felt like the first series even more than the premiere, but I'm still lost on the geography and place-names. I know the continents of Earth obviously existed in E7, but weren't they covered still by the Scub? How could there have been a South America in their 1940s, as they mentioned, if it was buried under a huge mass of Scub Coral?

[duckroll]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Why would someone who's relatively obscure in the first place need a pen name?

Kyouda seems like the most likely candidate to me. But if the writing continues to be as good as it was in the first two eps, it could be an 11 year-old from Portugal for all I care.

I don't think the director of Patlabor WXIII is "obscure" at all. He's pretty well known in the industry, but it's true that there's no reason why he would use a pen name. It's interesting that the rumor was widespread enough that Kyoda and Aikawa felt the need to address though...

[Jujubee]

Okay I just started watching this 5 minutes ago and something had me confused, the date. How can this sequel take place in April, 2025 when it's predecessor is supposed to be 10,000 years in the future?

[konart]

Originally Posted by Jujubee

Okay I just started watching this 5 minutes ago and something had me confused, the date. How can this sequel take place in April, 2025 when it's predecessor is supposed to be 10,000 years in the future?

You might wanna read some of the previous pages

[Tyr Valein]

Originally Posted by Jujubee

Okay I just started watching this 5 minutes ago and something had me confused, the date. How can this sequel take place in April, 2025 when it's predecessor is supposed to be 10,000 years in the future?

...or rewatch the series. They used the same calendar as we did, starting with the return to Earth. You can see that the publication dates for some of the RAY=OUTs were in 2005.

In addition, we're throwing around the suggestion that this could be the alternate universe that the Nirvash and Gonzy talked about at the end of the original.

Past that, we're just as confused as you are.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Something just occurred to me. We know that Humans left Earth around 10,000 years before to find another habitable planet when the Scub Coral was covering the Earth.

The would be colonists were led to believe the planet they landed upon is another planet. In truth it was Earth all along.

Taking account all the other inconsistencies in Astral Ocean, such as G-Monsters, what if the planet they are on isn't Earth but a colonist planet?

This would mean despite the obvious space emigration failure that led the Humans in Eureka to turn back where they started somebody else succeeded.

But now they have a problem of another colony of Scub Coral assimilating this world. This isn't the same Coralians we knew in the original series.

How Eureka, also possibly Renton , ending up on that planet is a question.

[SagaraSouske]

Or, a parallel universe.

[ars89]

Spoiler for ep 3:

Lol Noah even got kidnapped, like how he stuck to the Chief. Seems he knew Eureka. Nice to see Gazelle and the others help Ao. That g-monster battleship is huge. Nice to see Ao set on protecting the island. Sad to see Eureka without her hair color.!

[Jarmel]

Definitely a step down from the second episode in both directing and animation quality.

[wandering-dreamer]

If you watch closely you can see that the OP and ED have been updated to reflect Ao's new hair color (and there's a shot of Eureka from behind in the OP). Wonder why they went to the trouble of coloring his hair brown to start with though, it's not like all the promotional art pictured it as turquoise the start with or anything.

[SQA]

Originally Posted by wandering-dreamer

If you watch closely you can see that the OP and ED have been updated to reflect Ao's new hair color (and there's a shot of Eureka from behind in the OP). Wonder why they went to the trouble of coloring his hair brown to start with though, it's not like all the promotional art pictured it as turquoise the start with or anything.

Goes to the story progression. And Ao's name.

Spoiler for ep 4:

Well, it's nice they're not going to shy away from the bigotry and xenophobia angles. Though, even as Okinawa is really a proxy for Taiwan in current Geopolitical realm, this is going to cause a ruckus among a few parts of the Otaku world. The subtexts would be pretty hard to miss for a Japanese viewer.

Lots of world building and story progression this time around. Got an introduction to most of the Generation Blue cast of characters. That Boss is tall and strong, that's for certain.

Eureka is, mostly, introduced. But we're going to need some image comparisons. Either that, or she's a dead ringer for Talho with dark hair. Though I think we can assume she's either dead or unconscious for the past decade. Though I could come up with a few other random ideas what happened. Maybe the Nirvash is actually an interdimensional portal. If that doesn't open up a few wacky possibilities...

Oh, and Castle in the Sky references are always fun.

[fertygo]

Originally Posted by Jarmel

Definitely a step down from the second episode in both directing and animation quality.

They saving the resource for eps 4, the usual BONES frontlines listed in there.. next week gonna awesome.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Interesting no mention whatsoever of LFO. IFO's can only be operated by teens.

To the present powers like US, China, Japan and PMC Generation Blue see Eureka as someone very important. Only the Astral Ocean Okinawans are too dumb to live finding a scapegoat for all their troubles. The younger generation which has reached adulthood see how corrupt their elders are.

Given these reactions I think Eureka and Renton introduced LFO technology in this world to protect its residents but placed restrictions as they don't want to create chaos and strife. Hence certain teens are the only ones that can operate these IFO. They also create a more compact version of the Amita drive.

Okinawans are expy of xenophobic Japanese. This is the second show I've seen tackling/lampshading that particular Japanese social problem. There is also the historical fact the Ryukyu kingdom was annexed by Japan. This is also critical of Japan when it was a colonial power.

[Jarmel]

They also confirmed that AO Nirvash isn't OG Nirvash.

Anyway plot looks just to be an Evangelion ripoff so far, hopefully episode 5 should be interesting as I'm assuming Ao is leaving the island then.

[rpgman1]

Using Ao as a scapegoat for the Scub Coral and the disasters? Pretty superstitious for the Okinawans. Interesting that the Mark I is actually the LFO from the original. It was mostly dialogue and background story for the past. Really sad that people still live in fear and blame Ao for the current problems.