2013-05-31, 12:41 | Link #7344 |
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What's to like about the episode? Durandal playing Athrun like a fool and rapping him around his little finger?
The only decent part of the episode was the reveal of the Saviour. That and Kira's flashback to Rau's comments at the end of the last war. |
2013-05-31, 12:54 | Link #7346 |
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Which just makes the episode worse. I was at least trying to give Athrun some credit for not being a complete moron.
But like I said, that was my impression the first time I saw the episode. Which is somewhere between 4 and 6 years ago. Watching the rest of the series hasn't given me any real reason to like the episode or Durandal. |
2013-05-31, 13:02 | Link #7347 |
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the thing i kinda disliked the episode is that Shinn barely showed up in it i think all he did that ep was punch a wall. he's still main character ya know in this part of the show. Now Durandal never seemed like a snake to me in this episode, he looked rather pathetic, admitting that he needs Athrun for his power as well as making a fake Lacus. And this episode is one of the main reasons I can't stand Lacus, the people on the Plant making a totally reasonable response to the just happened Nuclear attack wondering what happens next with anger and fear. Then "Lacus" magically appears and says "stop worrying" and then everybody is better because Lacus said so.
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And really, this "Lacus" was the one making a "totally reasonable" response. She's asking the people to remain calm and let the government do their job of protecting the PLANTs. Rioting/protesting would not be productive, and she's just reminding the people of that. |
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2013-05-31, 14:43 | Link #7349 |
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I'll give you that he was right in that Athrun wasn't responsible for how others viewed his fathers words or acted upon them. That's not really the issue I have with him in this episode.
He clearly saw how Athrun was affected by how others viewed and acted upon his fathers words/ideals. He than used that "vulnerability" to his advantage to get Athrun to do what he wanted him to do. Not that Athrun gave him much trouble because of his own self doubt. He's a classic b!tch in sheep's clothing. |
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2013-05-31, 15:03 | Link #7351 |
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I suppose I'm just weird that way.
Which is odd since I'm not nearly as annoyed by the shows other villains like Rau, Patrick, Azreal or Djribril. Rau I find creepy, Patrick I find sympathetic in a screwed up way, and Azreal/Djrbril I just find pathetic. Go figure |
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now my big beef with fake Lacus telling everyone to stop, for me was stupid in how they did it. Yes rioting people not good, yes Government needs to do their job, but why in the holy hell did every single person in the Plants just go "yeah sure" to a pop idol? Lacus may have been in the final battle of Seed but, Kira and Athrun did most if not all the work in that battle. jeez why would they just respect her enough to do that? I guess i just can't see why Lacus so well respected in Seed/Destiny Universe by its characters she just a daughter of some ex-chairman shes not the politician. her dad was, its not like all his experience was transferred to her
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2013-05-31, 15:08 | Link #7353 |
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Question: Was Lacus' actions during the previous war ever fully explained to the public besides her peace broadcasts against Patrick Zala? Because that may explain the amount of influence she has besides being a popular singer.
For example the populace may be thinking along the lines from information given that she helped end the previous war through her actions with the 3 Ship alliance. Obviously the government is not gonna say anything else like "she stole a warship and intervened in the war using two stolen/defected nuclear powered mobile suits" etc. For all we know the ZAFT administration could have played her for a hero following Patrick Zalas death |
2013-05-31, 15:14 | Link #7354 |
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I don't think so sky629. And she was more than a pop star, she's also the daughter of a former head of state. Which seems to be overlooked a lot.
@The American Average So your saying there is no way Sigel Clyne could have been grooming Lacus to eventually take his place? Because the way your making it sound, Lacus was some ditzy broad who sung a lot. By the few indications that where given, she was actively supporting her father in a political manner. She may not have had an official position in his campaign, but she aided him none the less. |
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Obama's kids haven't been actively supporting their fathers political career. Lacus by what few tidbit's we've gotten did.
And if Sasha or Malia(?) could sic Kira/Athrun at me I'd give it some thought. |
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Cagalli make sense in why she knows about Politics its clear that she was going be next of State when her father retired. Orb seemed to be bloodlines rule while Plants Chairman seem to be elected. We see several times Uzumi teaching and telling Cagalli how things work while i can't really name one time Sigel took Lacus to the side and taught her some political tips for the future.
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