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View Poll Results: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Second Season - Episode 2 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 160 | 54.24% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 80 | 27.12% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 33 | 11.19% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 15 | 5.08% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 1.02% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 0.68% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.34% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 0.34% | |
Voters: 295. You may not vote on this poll |
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2008-10-19, 02:05 | Link #721 | ||||
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Head, chest, legs, you name it. Also is the fact that due to the Exia not having WoW shoulders, it displays a much more well balanced stance, and is almost never in an "awkward position". Try looking at 00's performance to Exia's pause by pause, screen by screen. There are times when 00 doesn't look OMG THIS IS S FREEDAM OF 00, and instead looks WTF ARE THOSE TWO CONES ON ITS SIDES DOING? The seven swords is one hell of a gimmick, no denying that. But that's like saying Avalanche Exia is gimp, which it IS. The whole point I made throughout S1 was that the best damn Gundam was Exia as plain Exia. NOTHING else. 0 Riser does indeed make 00 look cooler, but you give the damn thing a few years and look back, it won't match up to S Freedom and it's equivalents. Exia WILL rival and surpass Strike, Impulse, and only lose to Rx-78 as a starter Gundam. The switchblade is NOT a gimmick, because if you actually even took the spare time to try modeling it out yourself, it's clear as day. Does an anime character regardless of robot or not, look cooler holding a giant blade that sticks out of his elbow like Exia? Or does a anime character look cooler with what looks like a DRILL GUN when he's not using it to slice people? Let's not even compare the SWORD art quality, because the current 00 gundam's melee weapons don't even gather enough attention to make it a gimmick. Models are very different than anime, simply because models regardless of high grade, master grade, or over 9000 grade for all I care can never truly replicate animated characters at this point in time. It's like saying the McLaren F1 looks generic when you look at the hot wheels version. Buddy, have you ever SEEN a McLaren F1 in REAL LIFE? It stuns you. There is no model out there that I've seen that shines like they do on anime, that has the color palettes, nor has the anime-exclusive borders on it to make it what it really is. It's hard to explain, but anyone who believes the models are even close to replicating how any suit looks in 00 (I won't argue against older series because anyone can figure out how to make the Rx-78 look as good if not better than the anime version) anime must be extremely biased. Quote:
Again, the 0-riser is pretty much trying to trick out your car. It looks neat, but at the same time makes the gundam too tuned out looking. This is still a PERSPECTIVE thing, so it's really up to you whether you believe the 0-riser 00 is awesome sauce, but it pretty much parallels those who like S Freedom more, or those who like the Nu-Gundam more. One is the epitome of DECKED OUT while the other one emphasizes a thoroughbred. 0-Rise 00 belongs with Freedom. One thing I hate are people who always go WAIT BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN. You are the same people who go WAIT LET SOME MMO DEVELOP FOR TWO YEARS WHILE WE PAY MONTHLY BEFORE CRITICIZING. The whole dang point of this thread and every weekly thread is not to discuss the OVERALL series, it is to discuss the EPISODE, and what partakes in the episode. If it has SUCKED up til that point, then it has SUCKED UP TIL THAT POINT. Why is it so hard for today's generation of trolls and what not to understand that it is OKAY to like something AFTER a certain time duration. Must you LIKE Bush after all he's done just because you voted for him the first time? Why must you wait for ages before criticizing politicians who don't do their jobs from day 1? Because "it's hard and it takes time?" Quote:
If you think I believe the 00 looks ugly, you are mistaken. What I am saying is that out of a score of 100 in fitting it's purpose in the show, it only hits a 8X while the Exia scores 9X. Why? Because Exia is scored out of how good it is as a STARTER. You do not COMPARE a ZAKU to a GUNDAM RIGHT? Just like how you don't compare a REALDO to a FLAG because they aren't even in the same CLASS. Exia is NOT IN THE CLASS OF 00. Just because your FERRARI obviously looks RICHER than a tuned out civic doesn't mean your ferrari isn't ugly among ferraris. Quote:
Epic has nothing to do with what power level you have, because we all know Mustache Mario Gundam beats all with his twin Wario. What we say when we mean epic (those of us who don't try to use it so LITERALLY in only one value every time) is how it "fits" in the show as end game. Like, if you had NO IDEA what that gundam does, and it just sits there in Ian's garage, how would YOU rate it? FACT is people, if we all went BACK in time 10 years ago, and we saw screenshots of 00 with 0-riser kit just sitting there in the launch bay, could you have POSSIBLY believed it would be as end game epic as Strike Freedom, Guren MK9000(WHATEVER IT WAS THAT RAPED BRITANNIA), Wing Zero Custom, and all those other mechas that make people go LOLUROP? No, you won't. Anyone who does is a bad liar. It all RELIES on the GN particle light show to make it cool. |
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2008-10-19, 02:46 | Link #722 |
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I'm not gonna try and stop you from hating the 00 Gundam's design, it's your opinion on the aesthetic and function afterall. Though I'm not sure I like the way the argument is worded to sound like it's 100% fact that the 00 Gundam is unlikeable though, when first and foremost it's just an opinion. I mean while many people don't like the design, there are an equal number of people (like myself) who already love it, some because of the very qualities you don't like. Also, only time will tell how well the 00 Gundam will be recieved through the decades, since as history shows, popularity isn't really something one can predict (two decades ago people were saying Cindi Lauper would still be singing decades from now while Celine Dion would fade into obscurity... guess which of them fell out of the radar faster; if you want a non-pop example, people saying nearly a century ago that video was just a fad that would fade in a few years...). Hence, agree to disagree, and let those of us who like the 00 Gundam actually like it. Just my 2 cents.
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2008-10-19, 02:54 | Link #723 | |
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2008-10-19, 04:36 | Link #724 | |
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Anyway your avatar is cool & awesome. |
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2008-10-19, 17:20 | Link #726 | |||
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Short story: If you PAUSE the video at CERTAIN intervals, the 00 DOESN'T LOOK AS EPIC as it COULD BE due to it using a NEW and REFRESHING DESIGN that tries to emphasize MOBILITY and AGILITY than DECKED OUT FIREPOWER aka STRIKE FREEDOM. Episode 3 proves me right, while Ep 2 clearly showcased an AWESOME light show, Ep 3's focus was not on the Twin Drives and therefore 00 just got generic animations. Tell me exactly how EPIC the 00 felt in Ep 3 as the END GAME gundam? Sunrise even supports me due to the little small changes to his damn gun in episode 3. It looks less generic white like a long paper airplane and more like a futuristic blaster now. Quote:
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I'm pretty much the guy telling those screaming fangirls of models or something that if you look from a DIFFERENT angle, that person on the poster suddenly DOESN'T LOOK as cool and actually looks KINDA UGLY. There are definitely people that you know with facial features and perhaps maybe even bodies like that (ILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, LOOK AT ANGELINA JOLIES FACE FROM THE SIDE, IT SUCKS SO HARD COMPARED TO JUST A FULL FRONTAL FACE SHOT), let alone items such as CARS, PLANES, GUNS, ETC. ANYTHING you NAME IT. That's what I've tried to say, so if any of you are going to reply again, please at least acknowledge what my point is BEFORE you say "OBJECTION YOUR HONOR!" |
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2008-10-19, 20:18 | Link #727 | |
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Besides... does the 00 have to look epic for me to actually like it? Certainly not. I'mma dropping this subject now before it gets out of hand.
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2008-11-20, 14:57 | Link #728 |
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Something's been bothering me for a while about this episode. First, how was Ribbons able to watch 00's activation ? Second, why do we see 6 lights of red GN particles leaving the A-Laws ship while only 5 MS attacked the Ptolemaios. Did Louise actually launch and stay away from the battle ?
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2008-11-20, 15:18 | Link #730 |
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Ok thank you. The whole dialogue between Louise and Barrack was confusing. She asked him permission to launch and he replied it wasn't his decision to make (I supposed there that she wasn't allowed to launch) then ordered her to stay on stand by (on the ship ? away from the battle ?). And why wasn't she called/sent as reinforcement ? It also seemed that Barrack gave up on Seravee after 00 was activated. It looks like the director focused his efforts on showing us 00 Gundam's awesomeness and forgot about other details.
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2017-11-18, 20:06 | Link #734 |
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Yep, the "Neil giving a haircut to Soran"-ED. I like the visual and I still remember the song even now. You can call me a mellow guy but I do like melancholy songs as long as the melody sounds good and flows naturally. And the singer (Stephanie IIRC) is not bad. It's not your usual screechy seiyuu or idol voices. Her voice has more personality and confidence at least.
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