(L) Elfen Lied

[evil|plushie]

Just watched 13

Spoiler:

Nice ending. I wonder how Mariko knew Kuruma was her father though. I thought Kuruma spent all his time treating nana as the daughter figure instead. Alas, what a way to go. Nicely done nonetheless.

As for Lucy...I think Kouta forgave her too quickly, but that can be forgiven since I did like the scene where she finally smiled.

And the ending is slightly open ended, but it does seem like Lucy survived, though she seems ot have been gone long enough to grow out her hair. If there IS an elfen lied ova, it may continue on from the series and then we can finally know if Lucy is dead or alive.

[Guido]

Finally, the screenshots for the final episode have already been uploaded in the official website.

Just take a note that quite few of them might be spoilerful.

Spoiler:

As for the final scene, I wonder with all the time that Lucy went absent before whether or not returning to Kouta's, did she continued killing people? or was Kouta's forgiveness / pardon enough influence to drive her not to kill anyone anymore?

[docomo153]

where are you guys getting the final episode from?

[ramune]

Originally Posted by docomo153

where are you guys getting the final episode from?

They watched the raw...and the screenshots are form the official webpage.

*ramune is trying very hard to not clicking on the spoilers* >_<

[Rico]

*comfort*

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

I'm buying this since Nana lives.

[ChainLegacy]

Man.. I'm about to piss my pants waiting for this ep... Well, the Sox game might also be contributing to that, but goddamn does this episode look awesome.

[Newprimus]

Watching the raw right now, and have one thing to say:

Spoiler:

DAMN YOU, YOU F**KIN BITCH!!! WHY'D YOU BLOW THEM UP!?!?!?



I HATE YOU!! I UBER-DUPER-FLIPPINSHIT DICLONIOUS VECTOR-RAPE HATE YOU!!! SUCK MY DICK YOU PISSMONKEY AND DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE!!!!!! DIE LIKE A SON OF A BITCH, MOTHAF**KAAAR!!!!!!!

That out of the way, I'm really liking this episode so far.

[sarcasteak]

Originally Posted by Shinova

Watching the raw right now, and have one thing to say:

Spoiler:

DAMN YOU, YOU F**KIN BITCH!!! WHY'D YOU BLOW THEM UP!?!?!?



I HATE YOU!! I UBER-DUPER-FLIPPINSHIT DICLONIOUS VECTOR-RAPE HATE YOU!!! SUCK MY DICK YOU PISSMONKEY AND DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE!!!!!! DIE LIKE A SON OF A BITCH, MOTHAF**KAAAR!!!!!!!

That out of the way, I'm really liking this episode so far.

I will dry-hump that bastard to submission myself. Did anyone die, though? I mean not the cannon-fodders, the main girls. ^^

[Newprimus]

Originally Posted by sarcasteak

I will dry-hump that bastard to submission myself. Did anyone die, though? I mean not the cannon-fodders, the main girls. ^^

MAJOR SPOILER:

Spoiler:

The bastard in that above pic blew Kurama and Mariko up. And right after they had a touching father-daughter reunion too.


Mariko was scary, but after the reunion she was just too cute.


Yes, bastard deserves a rough anal. With a bat, preferably.

[sarcasteak]

Originally Posted by Shinova

MAJOR SPOILER:

Spoiler:

The bastard in that above pic blew Kurama and Mariko up. And right after they had a touching father-daughter reunion too.


Mariko was scary, but after the reunion she was just too cute.


Yes, bastard deserves a rough anal. With a bat, preferably.

Spoiler for REACTION TO MAJOR SPOILER:

CRIME AGAINST ALL LOLI AND LOLICON!

Don't worry, my 'wooden bat' is very long and almost as hard as aluminum, too! ^_~

[Newprimus]

In reference to that Ghetto subs parody release:

[dreamless]

Finished the last episode, and I have to say... what a DISAPPOINTMENT!!!!

Spoiler for not really spoiler but just some rant that may hint at what happened in the end:

Now I really don't understand why they decide to change the story so much and invent all those cheesy stuffs of their own now. I thought they were going to make a conclusion so it's inevitable to change stuffs, but no there is no conclusion! The ending is pretty much left as open as the end of volume 7 of the manga. Actually I'd say it's just a cheesy dumbed down variation of the end of volume 7 of the manga. There's no conclusion, no sense of closure, it ends almost exactly like how volume 7 of the manga ended, just taking out all the good stuffs in the manga and adding their own cheesy ridiculous stuffs into it. If they followed the manga and ended at volume 7 then I may like this series as much as, say, Narutaru, but now... seriously, why they even bother to invent all those cheesy stuffs if they don't want to make any conclusion to the story with any more sense of closure? I guess the only possible reason is that they feel obliged to make some cheap lovey dovey scenes between Lucy and Kouta into the anime

Let's see

Spoiler for anime episode 13 and some manga volume 7 spoilers:

so the ending is almost exactly the same as the end of manga volume 7.
- Bando lived.
- Mariko exploded.
- secretary Shirakawa died.
- That guy with the remote control died.
- Kurama status unknown (yup Mariko exploded in his arms, but in the manga he survived a shot directly to his head, also in the manga when Mariko exploded in a big explosion near Lucy, Lucy came out mostly unscratched except with her horns blown off. and most of the time explosions don't kill people in animes. So I won't be surprised if he somehow ended up alive and saved by Bando off-screen)
- Lucy lost her horns (and presumably became Nyu and returned to Kouta at the end)
- That assistant girl and the Chief Kakuzawa continued with some big plan (in the manga it's releasing the virus, the anime never reveals what that big plan is)
- everyone else continued on.

So here we are, ended at almost exactly the same situation as the end of manga volume 7, except with many things dumbed down and becoming really cheesy.
- secretary Shirokawa's death changes from the best scene (a very heroic death) in the manga into one of the dumbest things in the anime
- the remote control guy's death changes from one of the best scenes in the manga (tricked by evil Mariko's performance and sympathized with her) into one of the dumbest things in the anime (he tried to kill Nana? he must be a real idiot, I mean sure Nana doesn't look like she try to fight back at that time but still if I'm that guy I'd at least first run away to make sure there are no Diclonus near me)
- Nana becomes a total wuss. yup she somehow temporarily stopped Mariko's vector ability but that's the only thing she did this whole time. I mean, why didn't she use her vectors to stop that remote control guy? and when that remote control guy tried to kill her, she didn't even try to defend herself? She's a Diclonus, but in the last episode she just looks like a weak girl wearing fake cat-ears.
- The whole thing with the assistant girl and Chief Kakuzawa doesn't make sense. I think she was released to tell Kakuzawa about Kouta, but no she suddenly changed mind with "he's such a poor guy" and then Kakuzawa let her walk away without telling him about Kouta? WTH?
- Mariko's death changes from a tragic death protecting her father into... well, I admit the Mariko's death scene in the anime isn't that bad, but still lacks the powerful impact of that scene in the manga, but maybe that's mostly due to Lucy's change in the anime.
- Lucy becomes a good girl! Yup from the totally evil Goddess Lucy in manga volume 7 to a good nice kind girl. And the lovey dovey scene between she and Kouta is simply too cheesy. Especially they re-used the childhood zoo scenes again. so that part only reminded me that they just showed those cheesy filler scenes last episode, and now they have to show it again. Admittedly this time it's better than last episode, but still with the bitter experience in last episode, zoo scenes again now just make me feel bitter again. Oh and those "I'm sorry that I have killed your father and sister", "you give me painful memories but you also give me happy memories" lines XD I guess they are really desperate to add in those Kouta x Lucy lovey dovey scenes...

So what we have in the end is an "ending" that doesn't have any sense of closure (unless you imagine the hornless Lucy somehow managed to kill Kakuzawa and everyone under him and stopped his "big plan", whatever it is in the anime), it's left as open as the end of manga volume 7, but minus all the good stuffs which are replaced by some cheesy stupid stuffs and some cheap lovey dovey scenes. If it followed through faithfully to the manga and ended just as in manga volume 7 then I can see myself loving this show a lot, but now... it's just a mess IMO, adding in stupid stuffs without making a conclusion

BTW, I'm not very sure about one scene in the last episode, it starts at around 13:45, and it seems they have some inconsistency in some later scenes, at around 15:28 and 15:43

Spoiler:

at 13:45, after Kurama and Mariko went downstairs, the screen changes to black with some vectors (Mariko's?) throwing something down. I think that's Lucy being released from Mariko's vectors right? it's very dark so I'm not very sure...

and at 15:28, after Mariko explosion and Nana crying "Papa", it showed a scene of Lucy standing on a hill? but moments later at 15:43 after that remote control guy got killed, it showed Lucy leaning on the wall (presumably thrown down by Mariko in the scene at 13:45), seems like a bug?

[MakubeX2]

The points stated above is forgiveable given that Okamoto is not behind the production.

Looking how they portrayed Lucy in the anime and considering that there are a lot of those who have not read the manga is watching the anime it could be a good ending abeit a bit cheesy.

The only thing that I'm disappointed about this production is Mariko did not go "Myuu~?" like the kitten she should be.

[ramune]

Spoiler for ep.13:

The ending was alright. I was expecting something more though. I don't know why they left the ending as open-ended like this while there won't be a second season.

It does seem like Lucy lives at the end.

time to read the manga

[suzukimatsui]

Ok what is going on with the ending of Elfen Lied?

Spoiler:

First off why did her horn thingy get ripped off? Another question is what were her vectors doing? And finally is she alive or not at the end?

[Guido]

Not know, but I thing this should belong into the ELFEN LIED thread that is within the DVD & Licensed forum.

[MakubeX2]

For those who have seen the final Ep and wonder what the difference is between the Mariko arc, dreamless state that here

And for those interested in what's happen after the Mariko's arc in the manga I've stated that here

Originally Posted by suzukimatsui

Ok what is going on with the ending of Elfen Lied?

Part of your question is answer above, read my post regarding the aftermath of Mariko's arc.

And you know by now, that Diclos feel each other when they are close to each other in the anime, did Nana feel anything at the table ?

[Lycanth]

Ending could go either way, heres why:

Spoiler:

Well Lucy could have died to gunfire. However a few things lead me to believe that she may not have. For one why show the horn flying off? I think they did this because it would give the apperance of her dying (to the soldiers) so that they would stop searching for her. Secondly why even show her vectors if she was just going to let them kill her. And the clock starting up again is probably representative of something.

Thats what I think anyway.

[vud911]

Ending:

Spoiler:

I think the ending is implying Nyuu came back into their lives (she lost both horns, therefore, would be a normal human being,) The sad melody stopping represents the sad times are are over and clock beginning to move means it is beginning of a new start. But this is just optimistic thinking .

[Altimit]

This show seriously needs a second season, that's all I can say.