2010-05-31, 13:20 | Link #7521 |
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I'm sorry for my half-good English but please read the following:
I'm an Israeli citizen, my parents are Russians but I was born and raised here for almost 18 years. I live in fear almost every day of terror attacks, Arabs that cause trouble in Israel, Anti-semis that hate Israel and lie about us all the time and I'm afraid that a war will happen. Them Palestinians are nothing but Jordan shepherds, they were traveling in Israel while there was an Uthmanian control here (in the time of WWI) and later the British came over and took control of this place to reserve the land for the Jews that were long time scattered and banished from this land, the turf that was assigned to us was part of Jordan and the current Israel, well in the beginning before WWII when the Brits took control, the Arabs didn't like that and caused problems and there is the black Friday incident back in the 1920's or the 1930's where Jews were slaughtered by the Arabs that were in Israel. Later there was the holocaust that 6,000,000 Jews were killed and slaughtered for no reason. After the second world war UN assigned then 48' borders to Israel and gave other piece of land to the so called "Palestinians", the Jews agreed and Israel were born, the surrounding Muslims countries didn't like that and attacked us, we won and took over some turfs that were assigned to us from the start, plus, it was legal, because they attacked US. Then there was the war again in 67' where we took some more territories and strategic points so we won't get hurt again. Back in the 70's, a British reporter decided to reverse the game of war between the Jews and the Muslims and decided Israel were "Goliath" and the Arabs were "David", he called them Palestinians. Now hold on, statistically there are 1.57 billion across the globe next to 13-14 million Jews and around 6 million in Israel. Well, they Palestinians decided to use that and keep lying, always, and you probably seen the movie regarding fake dramatization of so called "Palestinian murdering" on YouTube. Nowadays the lie is what believed to be the truth, for some reason UN and other countries decided it's OK to negotiate with terrorists, they decided the Jordan shepherds that are basically Arabs need a land, and after 8 YEARS of shooting rockets toward Israel, we finally responded and they are claiming we MURDERED "Palestinians" in Gaza. IDF is the most humanitarian army in the world, no army sent papers by air WARNING the citizens of Gaza before the attack. Israel is supplying Humanitarian support on a basis and transferred huge amount of money to support Gaza. We gave them another piece of out land back when Ariel Sharon was the Prime Minister of Israel as a TRIBUTE so they won't kill us, that didn't help and the wall was built, to keep Israeli citizens safe. Arabs in Israel live very good, and the Palestinians are getting support and the operation in Gaza was to weaken "Hamas" a terror organization that uses kids as shields and blame IDF on it. The ship to Gaza lately (which is why I'm writing all of this) is a Provocative step from Turkey and the extremists who want to destroy Israel, if they were Humanitarian why they didn't listen to IDF when they told them to stop? Why they didn't respond to our hostage's father when he asked them to support his hostage son? They just want to cause trouble to Israel, after the IDF went on board of the ship the "passengers of peace" on the ship started to attack them brutally, IDF didn't shoot until they took one of the guns from IDF and one "passenger of peace" started shooting everywhere and probably shot his friends. Only when our soldier started bleeding hard and got hurt badly then IDF responded to the aggressive attack. Even in our previous operation IDF warned everyone and they fought with land troopers inside Gaza, threatening the IDF soldiers lives, just for the safety of the people in Gaza. NO OTHER ARMY IN THE WORLD WILL DO THAT WHEN FIGHTING TERROR AND THE ENEMY. Think what UK would do in our situation, think what US would do think what Russia would do, people can always point at us and blame us for something we didn't do or start, but look at your countries. It's important for me to notice that I'm sorry that I used the world Muslims and Arabs a lot, this has no racist intention, it is just to name a population that their ethnicity is that. Please understand us.
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2010-05-31, 13:22 | Link #7522 | |
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Ten dead as Israel storms aid ship
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The activists are seriously fucked up. Seriously, seriously fucked up. They even snatch pistols from the commandos! How can they call themselves "peace activists" when they did not even let the boarding party search their ship for arms? If they don't have anything bad to show, why should they be angry? The Turks should be entering a dialogue with Iran to stop the arms smuggling into Gaza rather than directing the anger at the Israelis who are defending themselves.
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2010-05-31, 13:35 | Link #7523 | |
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2010-05-31, 13:38 | Link #7524 | |
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he WANTS confrentations with israel, because he's trying to promote his islamic agenda in turkey (which is still mostly secular) and turn it into another muslim ruled country and in the middle east, anyone who wants popular support, gets it by picking on the israeli's its the one constant fact about the mid east any group that tries to seek popular support to promote their OWN agenda, first attacks israel and then when they GET popular support, they show their true colors by turning on the REAL enemy, their own people its what hizballa did, right before taking over beirut by force its what hamas did, right before taking over gaza by force and its what iran's doing, right before it would try and take over the gulf states if they didn't attack the commandos, no one would have been hurt (there were five other ships the commandos took over, and no one was hurt there)
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2010-05-31, 13:46 | Link #7525 | |
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2010-05-31, 13:49 | Link #7526 | |
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2010-05-31, 13:49 | Link #7527 | |
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2010-05-31, 13:51 | Link #7528 |
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You can't. A person's home is representative of something much greater. If police barged into my workplace I'd feel a heck of a lot less violated than if they barged into my home. Wouldn't you?
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2010-05-31, 13:51 | Link #7529 | |
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Well take a look at this propaganda :
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Here is a solution to this problem : negotiate with the Israeli government to allow boarding and searching of the ship carrying aid into the Gaza strip. These activists are making the whole world look like idiots.
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2010-05-31, 13:54 | Link #7531 | |
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so you're one of those i take it *sigh* the commandos were taking over ships carrying blockade runners who were trying to violate a maritime blockade set in place by the israeli Navy they were repeatedly ordered to turn back, but refused, at which point they were boarded the soldiers who boarded the ships we're not going to hurt their passangers anymore then the ones on the OTHER five ships were hurt (which is none at all), but they WERE going to prevent them from continuing on their course, and redirect them to the port of ashdod at which point, the passangers on the BIG ship started violently attacking the soldiers (watch the vids), who ended up having to use lethal force to defend themselves its an open and shut case
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2010-05-31, 13:55 | Link #7532 | |
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The Nazis rounded up the Jews, shipped off to extermination camps. Did the commandos intend to round up the activists and gas them in camps? Poor comparison SIR.
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2010-05-31, 13:57 | Link #7534 | |
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One of those what? Go ahead and say it.
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2010-05-31, 14:01 | Link #7537 | |
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people who reject israel's right to exist in the first place
your following statement to ledgem sealed the deal on that one Quote:
if the soldiers deemed it necessary, they were in a better position to determine it then YOU are.
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2010-05-31, 14:02 | Link #7538 |
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With that, if you don't mind, I'd like to propose my peace plan:
UN stops funding the entire region for a while. The US takes over the entire region, and stops all insurgents from both sides. The US enforces the borders and stays there to ensure they remain the same. It's not a popular idea because it involves US intervention, but that's the only way peace would happen. Because none of us want these news stories to keep popping up. |
2010-05-31, 14:04 | Link #7540 |
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I won't even bother responding to this BS.
What IDF did was right, this ship was provocative and was warned before entering the territory and they can't let them in, which was the way they were heading. Just a few clips about what happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2duPV9MQIc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LulDJh4fWI
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