(L+CR) Goblin Slayer

[Tenzen12]

Goblin Slayer said there is more goblin slaying quest recently. That's pretty much all that was on that account.

[erneiz_hyde]

There is GS happily culling the herd all these years and the goblins doesn't decrease in numbers, that alone is worrisome. And when he says there's more goblins than usual, even by a slight amount, then indeed that is not a good sign. Going with biology alone goblin ecology does seems weird. Perhaps them being able to crossbreed is a secondary function and their numbers grow mainly because someone keeps creating them (that god someone mentioned earlier perhaps).

[bakato]

Keep in mind GS is a local guy. His extermination is really just a drop in the bucket.The increase in goblins make sense. If he's clearing out the local goblins, then that leaves room for goblins abroad to hustle in.

[Twi]

He even guesses that the one that was stealing livestock was a wanderer, which is what happens when a nest gets destroyed and the survivors flee. Remember, GS is thorough enough to leave no survivors as a rule. Not everyone else is.

[Wheeljack83]

Originally Posted by kanoguti

big shame. I hope they don't tone down stuff later on, especially the high priestess.


What do you guys think about the goblins = stereotype discussion?

Flimsy argument at best. Racist morons such as Pedantic Romantic projecting their own stereotypical views of minorities, such as Jews, onto goblins.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Wheeljack83

Flimsy argument at best. Racist morons such as Pedantic Romantic projecting their own stereotypical views of minorities, such as Jews, onto goblins.

Well, I guess this is a good way to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[moridin84]

Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

There is GS happily culling the herd all these years and the goblins doesn't decrease in numbers, that alone is worrisome. And when he says there's more goblins than usual, even by a slight amount, then indeed that is not a good sign. Going with biology alone goblin ecology does seems weird. Perhaps them being able to crossbreed is a secondary function and their numbers grow mainly because someone keeps creating them (that god someone mentioned earlier perhaps).

He spent 3 days to go to a place and killed like, 20 goblins?

[xeviouses]

GS is just one guy trying to take on hundreds, thousands, possibly more goblins. There's so much just one guy can do and that's not accounting for travel time. Plus GS himself doesn't just go out searching for goblin nests, he needs the postings on the guild to pinpoint their location.

[Guido]

It was around more than a year ago that I began reading the Goblin Slayer manga; a good read I must add.

After watching the first two episodes of the anime, I'm feeling satisfied with this adaptation.

The Goblin Slayer character is just how I'm recalling him from the manga material; haven't read the light novels yet.

Goblin Slayer is a man of few words taking on any Goblin-related quests to fulfill his vendetta against goblins. He employs whatever means at his disposal to make sure the Goblins do not check out once they all check in.

While Priestess's empathy and worry is understandable for Goblin Slayers' actions going too far against the goblins, nonetheless, at least to me, I deem her compassion naively misplaced when it comes to the goblins.
Honestly, GS had his load of extreme trauma in his childhood and no thanks due to the Goblins' deeds against his village and family. Furthermore, his cold and nonchalant attitude towards goblin extermination stems not only from pure hatred but also from his pragmatic experiences over years upon studying, understanding, and dealing with his enemy's behavior, way of thinking, breeding habits, skills, hunting habits, and relentless nature.

The rundown is that goblins are highly treacherous creatures even at their infant stage and turn highly vicious when relentlessly raiding farms and small towns in big hordes. As GS points out from personal experiences during hunts, goblins neither are the smartest amongst all creatures nor are they moronic. They're capable of sufficient rudimentary intelligence in order to come up with basic strategies for ambushes and group coordinated attacks in their cramped, shadowy lairs.

The Priestess's former party were not only such newbie amateurs but also pretty stupid to venture all by themselves inside a goblin hideout while having no previous experiences and equipment in order to battle goblins, severely underestimating the creepers; heck, even the plot establishes that the high fatality rate among beginner parties is due to their members lacking in experience and knowledge on even the weakest of all creatures.

Goblin Slayer by all means is no Berserk in that the characters do not have to wage war in a futile struggle against fate and causality. Rather the Goblin Slayer's vendetta is a means for him to push himself to survive each day in order to relentlessly deal with the vicious truths of his world in that: being alive tomorrow is not a given as well as throwing away your kindness and compassion as they don't always pay off but instead might be met with a tragic outcome.

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

The world of GS is in constant turmoil, with dark gods, dragons, demons, sect etc lurking around their perimeters. That's not a "maybe": the frontier is constantly besieged by a new threat. That's why Platinum and Gold adventurers are even tasked to assist the army (national level threat), while Silver and lower take part of the more "mundane" tasks.

That alone make the point became moot as well when the damage caused by goblin is recognized to be potentially serious for long run even for specialist like GS.

As much dark gods, demons and dragons lurking outside, government on this part is really questionable especially if they're aware of this.
This situation only explainable if the capital is having-- something like hundred-years great wall similar to Attack on Titan, maybe with propaganda that inside is better than outside (or something like if you get out of city to build your own village its your own risk and we're not responsible to that), so the governments can focused on those national-level threats and deal with goblins only after they became national-level threats, maybe while also expecting every traumatized children became a Batman or Punisher for those lower-level threats.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Tactics

That alone make the point became moot as well when the damage caused by goblin is recognized to be potentially serious for long run even for specialist like GS.

All GS knows is that he really hates goblins. He doesn't have a bird's eye view of the situation. He knows very little of other threats and how they compare to goblins. He doesn't know whether goblins are a major threat or if humanity can absorb the losses the way it does others. He doesn't even think of what he's doing as making a difference beyond maybe saving one nameless village once in a while.

[moridin84]

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[Twi]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

All GS knows is that he really hates goblins. He doesn't have a bird's eye view of the situation. He knows very little of other threats and how they compare to goblins. He doesn't know whether goblins are a major threat or if humanity can absorb the losses the way it does others. He doesn't even think of what he's doing as making a difference beyond maybe saving one nameless village once in a while.

That's the beauty of the situation, he is making a difference. The anime cut out the looks of relief on the villagers faces when they saw the smoke from the fortress, his song is popular because he's a folk hero, and the First Year Side-Story reveals that one of those nameless villages he saved had someone very important inside of it.

[eiyuuou]

Originally Posted by Tactics

That's another questionable part as well.

If you're adventurer, then taking a rest on either inn or tavern, you might come across news that goblin burning down a village causing problem with food supply or something like that. Someone might even paid you in midst of your adventure just to make sure their village is free from goblin. Saying "No" to that can hurts your reputation more unless you're sure those people died by next morning, thanks to goblin (LOL)..

Actually, most will outright reject your request instead.
a. It is not guild approved since it is requested out of nowhere and it doesn't add to his guild achievements.
b. It infringes upon the adventurer's freedom. Since you are a villager, you have no right to demand the adventurer to do your quest.
c. Doing your request can affect the adventurer's current quest and failing that impacts his/her reputation far more as well as whatever penalties imposed by the guild than a villager's unhappiness.

usual Goblin reward is deemed too low for the risk. Since you are demanding out of nowhere, the adventurer can easily demand 3x to 20x more than the usual and payment upfront.
Unwilling? You can go to the guild and have some porcelain ranks to handle your goblins.

Either way, you're bound to learn that goblin is dangerous creature if you're an adventurer.

While its not your priority if you're a high rank adventurer, the basic understanding that they need immediate response should be there.
With GS confirming they need some kind of leader, there is high chance you can find them as mooks for those high-rank like dragon and overlords that most likely have better intelligence compare to others, making such case like beginners on first episode potentially not limited to low rank; its weird knowing creature that can spawn like cockroach with capabilities to burn down a village, taking over an abandoned fortress with need to rape females isn't considered dangerous by common sense.

goblins are the high risk low pay kind of bounty and their material are worthless.
There are plenty of cannon fodder aka porcelain ranks to deal with goblins.
This is likely the typical opinion of adventurers, more so when they realize the potential danger of goblins harboring higher ranked goblins or lifeforms.

This is why goblin slayer has complete confidence of getting goblin quests even with the morning scramble. Goblin quests are simply unlucrative.

My reason asking about shortcut is because of that.
Not that I didn't understand there's some criteria needed to be fulfilled but seeing those kind of quest considered cheap just because the person making request is not some noble old man in glorious fashion make the entire situation very questionable.

Unless there's some kind of advertisement / propaganda on capital like, "Everyday 1,000,000 people killed by dragon. Let's wage war to them. Made them extinct" or something like Attack on Titan saying that outside world is dangerous, this situation of goblin not recognized as potential danger, especially on long term, is just weird.

Yes, the propaganda "even villagers can chase off goblins" ensured goblins are deemed weak, and nobles who never encountered danger in the comfort of their homes will certainly dismiss them as small fry.
If villages paid more to eliminate the goblins, non-porcelain rankers may likely to take up the goblin quests. It is precisely the reward is low that leads to bottom rankers taking up the leftovers. When weaker ranked adventurers get killed, the guild send higher ranked adventurers and so on. The guild may then incentivize the adventurer with more achievement points or reward for completing the mission as a higher risk is confirmed with the deaths of adventurers. This system generally makes it somewhat more difficult for goblins to grow into a horde that can threaten city levels, but frontier villages are generally sacrificed as a result.
Since goblin slayer mentioned survivors become stronger, you can also say villagers (and likely wannabe heroes) are also a factor in creating more dangerous goblins by chasing them off instead of killing them off.

Goblin slayer definitely made the guild happy since he kills goblins without caring for the low rewards.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Tactics

That alone make the point became moot as well when the damage caused by goblin is recognized to be potentially serious for long run even for specialist like GS.

As much dark gods, demons and dragons lurking outside, government on this part is really questionable especially if they're aware of this.
This situation only explainable if the capital is having-- something like hundred-years great wall similar to Attack on Titan, maybe with propaganda that inside is better than outside (or something like if you get out of city to build your own village its your own risk and we're not responsible to that), so the governments can focused on those national-level threats and deal with goblins only after they became national-level threats, maybe while also expecting every traumatized children became a Batman or Punisher for those lower-level threats.

You sound like the government or kingdom has the luxury to worry about the future when they can barely to handle the present issue.

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

Even a zombie isn't a big threat if taken alone, less than a goblin for sure. But the moment you underestimate them and let them outnumber you 1000 to 1 you are screwed.

Right now in this world if goblins aren't seen as a priority is probably because there isn't a short supply of new adventurers that will take the job of culling them, and that's fine.

However in spite of GS' efforts it seems goblins are still increasing in number. If the trend doesn't change, sooner or later they are going to become a serious problem.

So you want kingdom to fully focus on terminate the goblins for the future proof and ignore the greater threats at present?

[moridin84]

Originally Posted by Twi

That's the beauty of the situation, he is making a difference. The anime cut out the looks of relief on the villagers faces when they saw the smoke from the fortress, his song is popular because he's a folk hero, and the First Year Side-Story reveals that one of those nameless villages he saved had someone very important inside of it.

...

I did not realize that was her.

Well, the way things go she probably would have survived. Maybe that's why she is so cheerful though, she missed her mandated tragic backstory.

[Lhklan]

Originally Posted by moridin84

...

I did not realize that was her.

Well, the way things go she probably would have survived. Maybe that's why she is so cheerful though, she missed her mandated tragic backstory.

And then one realises that GS's habit of fucking up rolls started earlier than we thought lel

[erneiz_hyde]

Originally Posted by Sixth

You sound like the government or kingdom has the luxury to worry about the future when they can barely to handle the present issue.

Naah, the government is probably doing just fine. They don't bother since the government is so rich that the damage the goblins inflict is basically pocket change, easily replaceable.

Originally Posted by Sixth

So you want kingdom to fully focus on terminate the goblins for the future proof and ignore the greater threats at present?

Meh, there's no need. They are just goblins, who cares about a few villages, there will always be new villages around to replace destroyed ones. And new adventurers spawn all the time so you can just keep throwing bodies at those goblins.

[ShadowSamurai365]

Seeing how many comments sprang up on because of the situation, this makes me wonder what everyone's view is of 'adventurers' are (like are their view of them different from what they actually are)?

[eisai_haramasukoi]

I'm rooting for Cow Girl. Despite all what happened, she still believes in her childhood friend. That's some wife-level dedication.

That said, GS truly is the fantasy Batman.