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2011-01-13, 08:59 | Link #7583 | |
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2011-01-13, 13:24 | Link #7584 | |||
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I don't think there's ever been anything proven that sleep even does anything to growth, except lets you live long enough to grow fully.
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2011-01-13, 14:38 | Link #7585 | |
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If people are really lack of sleep, it is a natural occurrence that their bodies would unconsciously go to sleep (without them realizing it) for about 5-10 seconds to help maintaining its function. Studies have been done on the maximum hours a person can stay awake. I don't remember the exact number, but I believe that they stay awake for more than 10 days straight, and it took them about 1 day (or less) of sleep for their body to function normally again. Well, the growth hormones only secrete during the sleeping period. Last edited by zodanhko; 2011-01-13 at 14:52. |
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2011-01-13, 15:04 | Link #7586 | |
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And the preparation sleep does help, many within theater crews know that they're going to be working late and thus miss out on sleep time, so sleeping beforehand helps out functioning. It has to be combined with decent sleep afterwords to be effective though. Also, it's a few extra hours of sleep for the days in advance, not a single block of time dedicated to rest (which the body does need in addition) A few seconds isn't even long enough for the body to start anything, so falling asleep for short periods of time would do nothing except tell the person that they need to take a real sleep time, I do so constantly, and actually, it makes me feel worse, not better. Also, Hinagiku sleeps for plenty long to allow the growth process to happen, sleeping more would not affect it. Especially where she believes she needs the growth.
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2011-01-13, 15:41 | Link #7587 | ||
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Edit: When I said, " it would not work and would not help you stay awake" from the paragraph above, I was referring to the journey. Quote:
I certainly agreed with you growth that is hereditary. I was just stating a relationship between growth and sleep. Last edited by zodanhko; 2011-01-13 at 16:13. |
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2011-01-13, 16:10 | Link #7588 | ||
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I use it constantly, and several days do make a difference, though it may not be noticeable the first time it's done, the extra sleep does improve functioning over a period of time. Quote:
As an aside, are we even considering what started this path anymore? Whether Nagi's sleep pattern is healthy?
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2011-01-13, 16:30 | Link #7589 | ||
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2011-01-13, 16:46 | Link #7590 | |
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There is multiple instances where what is taught is incorrect, in many facets of education. This is possibly a reason for most textbooks to have to put out a new addition, to correct misconceptions.
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2011-01-13, 16:49 | Link #7591 | |
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The mind will be forced into the state of unconscious for some seconds (without you realizing it) if you are lack of sleep. |
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2011-01-13, 21:47 | Link #7592 |
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I'm waiting for the part where you two going back and forth about circadian rhythms or whatever has any actual applicability to a fictional manga series.
.... Nope, still waiting. Anyway, let's get back to discussing the actual chapter. I wonder when they're gonna get back to the doujin plot....
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Although this set-up does allow the romance side of the story to take center stage, it still feels surreal.
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2011-01-14, 01:10 | Link #7595 |
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I too hope the doujin thread is picked up soon, or (assuming they're related) at least tied in with with Ms. Tennos's latest package of earth-shattering woe and misfortune. Hata has a story to tell, but even considering his usual glacial pace, developing a new thread and then interrupting it with another thread without tying them together before long -- well, it doesn't strike me as the best way to tell a story. Then again, this isn't Shakespeare (as my allusion to the world of poetry reminded me) . . .
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2011-01-14, 01:24 | Link #7596 |
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To be honest, the only thing I can care about the dōjinshi story is Luca. In my opinion, the rest was rather boring.
As for why the apparent change in storyline. Well, in addition to the fact that Athena scored a #2 in the popularity contest, and Hina, once again, #1 belongs to her, I can see how Athena fit into this. After all, Yozora was already using magic, we had thing whole thing about the 28th, and I doubt Luca was added there just to be Nagi's rival. All of this smells like plot, and it seems that, whenever there's plot, there's Athena.
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2011-01-14, 02:51 | Link #7598 |
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I was only trying to lay some information regarding sleeping that I thought was inaccurate and nothing more.
Same here. I don't use the word cute too often to describe a character, but I must say Luca deserves it with her behavior/personality. |
2011-01-14, 04:31 | Link #7599 |
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I remember that someone (forgot who) wrote in his blog that c303 didn't offer much for Hina shippers. I don't think that I agree here, the Hina shipper in me was actually delighted about this chapter.
Why? Because in this chapter, we finally see Hina and Hayate deal with each other nicely. No pressure, no crisis, no drama, and lookie there - things work out perfectly. Hayate is very attentive (in his professional work), Hina is surprised and appreciative. No blushing, yelling, and hitting Hayate for a change. I don't know about you, but I'd rather have these harmless fuzzies than the annoying pseudo-drama based on stupidity. One more side-remark: If Hata truly intended to give Nagi some growth and maturity, then this chapter was a clear relapse ^_^; ... yes, it's good for some chuckles, but at THAT rate, she's never really going to grow up. |
2011-01-14, 04:56 | Link #7600 |
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That's indeed true. And, seriously, this current arc has made me realise Nagi would work much better as a side character. I mean, she doesn't work as a lead in terms of comedy (I mean, her scenes can be funny, but not to lead a comedy manga, in my opinion), she doesn't work as a lead in terms of romance either - other characters have been developed far more than her. In fact, as I've mentioned it several times in the past, it's even debatable whether she's received any romantic development at all, and I believe she's received none. And as far as plot is concerned, she doesn't work as a lead in that. So far, that seems to be Athena's area.
Of course, there's still the butler and his master theme; that has indeed got developed throughout the series, and Nagi has actually matured. But, has she got to have female lead status for that? I mean, she could definitely count as a main character considering the manga's main theme, but I don't think she works as the lead. Naturally, this is just my opinion.
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