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DragonKing0117 · 2015-02-16, 08:00

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Originally Posted by Apoptosis

I Est-imated as such.

Greyworth guys! Keep the puns coming.

Ravagerblade · 2015-02-16, 08:19

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Originally Posted by DragonKing0117

Greyworth guys! Keep the puns coming.

I can see Claire-ly now the rain is gone.

OT, I wonder if Judia is still in her 9 yr old body or if it grew while being frozen. lol Loli!!!!! Here's to the 14th Volume to explain this to us.

Tohno Ren · 2015-02-16, 10:05

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Originally Posted by Ravagerblade

Coincidence or not?
Restia and Est.
What do you guys think?

In the history of the spirit world, Est has appeared for a very long time (roughly in or before the time of the ancient Spirit War between the deceased Darkness Elemental Lord with the current Five Elemental Lords)
Restia is the embodiment of the deceased Darkness Elemental Lord's will, and the Demon King is Darkness Elemental Lord's incarnation (which mainly is male in order to masked from the mortal eyes)
=> Just a coincidence

DragonKing0117 · 2015-02-16, 11:53

So I just randomly discovered this while looking at a certain raw site.
http://www.dmpbooks.com/books/2030/

It seems like the manga was licensed with the first Volume being released on January 28th and nobody even realized it. I'm not sure how to feel about this anymore.

amtro · 2015-02-16, 12:30

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Originally Posted by Tohno Ren

In the history of the spirit world, Est has appeared for a very long time (roughly in or before the time of the ancient Spirit War between the deceased Darkness Elemental Lord with the current Five Elemental Lords)
Restia is the embodiment of the deceased Darkness Elemental Lord's will, and the Demon King is Darkness Elemental Lord's incarnation (which mainly is male in order to masked from the mortal eyes)
=> Just a coincidence

It's not a coincidence at all. Also Ren Ashdoll reincarnates as a lot of things, though there hasn't been a single mention of her reincarnating as a female.

Spoiler for The original Darkness Elemental Lord Ren Ashdoll:

Spoiler for Est cosplaying as "Dark Est":

Est was supposedly an independent agent during the war, which is really strange considering how ruthlessly strong she is. Also there's the fact that she has no element, she only controls weapons. Maybe the original Ren Ashdoll fractured herself into multiple pieces. The one that holds the will of Ren Ashdoll, Restia, Est and a male alter ego that will ultimately serve as a vessel of the dark lord's powers.
Since the Darkness Elemental Lord herself can never fully return, perhaps instead she opted to shatter and reassemble herself into something that might resemble the original.

DragonKing0117 · 2015-02-16, 13:12

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Originally Posted by amtro

It's not a coincidence at all.

Spoiler for The original Darkness Elemental Lord Ren Ashdoll:

Spoiler for Est cosplaying as "Dark Est":

Est was supposedly an independent agent during the war, which is really strange considering how ruthlessly strong she is. Also there's the fact that she has no element, she only controls weapons. Maybe the original Ren Ashdoll fractured herself into multiple pieces. The one that holds the will of Ren Ashdoll, Restia, Est and a male alter ego that will ultimately serve as a vessel of the dark lord's powers.
Since the Darkness Elemental Lord herself can never fully return, perhaps instead she opted to shatter and reassemble herself into something that might resemble the original.

Where'd you find that image? (Of Ren Ashdoll)

amtro · 2015-02-16, 13:42

It was posted some time ago, I do remember looking up the source a year ago, but now I've forgotten what it was. It is however tagged on yandere said to be from petite cerisier, I can confirm that not a single one of the petite cerisier galleries/books has this picture (they're ero and NFSW, not linking here or in PMs).

XFire · 2015-02-16, 13:44

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Originally Posted by Amanomurakumo

Taking a rest....ia?

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Originally Posted by Apoptosis

Besides that, what ellis are we supposed to do?

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Originally Posted by Amanomurakumo

Rinslet and Repeat.

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Originally Posted by Apoptosis

I Est-imated as such.

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Originally Posted by DragonKing0117

Greyworth guys! Keep the puns coming.

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Originally Posted by Ravagerblade

I can see Claire-ly now the rain is gone.

OT, I wonder if Judia is still in her 9 yr old body or if it grew while being frozen. lol Loli!!!!! Here's to the 14th Volume to explain this to us.

I suppose I was asking for this....

Ophis · 2015-02-16, 13:59

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Originally Posted by amtro

It's not a coincidence at all. Also Ren Ashdoll reincarnates as a lot of things, though there hasn't been a single mention of her reincarnating as a female.

Spoiler for The original Darkness Elemental Lord Ren Ashdoll:

Spoiler for Est cosplaying as "Dark Est":

Est was supposedly an independent agent during the war, which is really strange considering how ruthlessly strong she is. Also there's the fact that she has no element, she only controls weapons. Maybe the original Ren Ashdoll fractured herself into multiple pieces. The one that holds the will of Ren Ashdoll, Restia, Est and a male alter ego that will ultimately serve as a vessel of the dark lord's powers.
Since the Darkness Elemental Lord herself can never fully return, perhaps instead she opted to shatter and reassemble herself into something that might resemble the original.

That makes no sense, Est's full power is higher than that of the <<Elemental Lords>> themselves. Why would Ren Ashdoll divide her power like that so that she could wager war at the rest of the <<Elemental Lords>> just to be killed?

By the way, there's nothing strange about Est being neutral/independent in that Spirit War. It's precisely because she's that strong that she can be independent. Est's attribute is Steel, not controlling weapons.

shadow1296 · 2015-02-16, 14:13

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Originally Posted by Ophis

That makes no sense, Est's full power is higher than that of the <<Elemental Lords>> themselves. Why would Ren Ashdoll divide her power like that so that she could wager war at the rest of the <<Elemental Lords>> just to be killed?

By the way, there's nothing strange about Est being neutral/independent in that Spirit War. It's precisely because she's that strong that she can be independent. Est's attribute is Steel, not controlling weapons.

the answer is very simple the other worldly darkness is the reason, splitting herself up keeps her from becoming fully corrupted and taken over and coming back as their servant, also with this new info i have a theory on about est, restia is the will of ren ashdoll in otherwords her mind, kamito is her power AKA her soul, my theory is the est is her body if that is the case that explains why she hasn't come back in her original form because those three parts of her never have come and worked together, they were always on opposite sides of the conflict

Wandering Soul · 2015-02-16, 16:58

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Originally Posted by XFire

I suppose I was asking for this....

Proof what happens when we get bored.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2015-02-16, 17:15

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Originally Posted by shadow1296

the answer is very simple the other worldly darkness is the reason, splitting herself up keeps her from becoming fully corrupted and taken over and coming back as their servant, also with this new info i have a theory on about est, restia is the will of ren ashdoll in otherwords her mind, kamito is her power AKA her soul, my theory is the est is her body if that is the case that explains why she hasn't come back in her original form because those three parts of her never have come and worked together, they were always on opposite sides of the conflict

Here's the problem Est is quite clearly a holy sword if nothing else so why would she be related to a darkness elemental lord.

Ravagerblade · 2015-02-16, 17:17

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Here's the problem Est is quite clearly a holy sword if nothing else so why would she be related to a darkness elemental lord.

No IIRC it said she was not one. I'm going to re-read it anyways So I'll be on the lookout.

bakato · 2015-02-16, 17:18

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Here's the problem Est is quite clearly a holy sword if nothing else so why would she be related to a darkness elemental lord.

It was stated before, that she didn't have a "holy" attribute. The proper term would be a "sacred" sword.

amtro · 2015-02-16, 17:30

Actually she's more of a "cursed sword". The "sacred" bit comes from her being the mighty weapon of the great hero, in reality she's strong as heck and gradually steals the life of its user.

Ophis · 2015-02-16, 17:33

Est is a spirit with purely Steel as attribute. She's called Sacred Sword because of her ability to destroy curses, and that she's the sword that was used to kill Solomon.

amtro · 2015-02-16, 17:47

She doesn't destroy curses, she eats them. She absorbs them and they add to the original curse, the more curses she absorbs the greater the strain on the user. Areishia died because of Est's curses.
Also "steel" isn't a designated element in the LN, it has no ruling lord and Est is the single member of the group. Furthermore steel is far too specific, if it were iron I might be able to along with it, say metal and I've got no complaints.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2015-02-16, 18:19

yea i've been losing touch with a lot and this is one of those series that hasnt had much in a while. Still whats sad is at its time Blade Dance had a lot of potential and it feels like the anime ruined that potential because it revealed a fatal flaw in the show. Early on None of the characters were really likeable and the blade dance while its nasty has a ton of flaws

Ophis · 2015-02-16, 18:20

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Originally Posted by amtro

She doesn't destroy curses, she eats them. She absorbs them and they add to the original curse, the more curses she absorbs the greater the strain on the user. Areishia died because of Est's curses.
Also "steel" isn't a designated element in the LN, it has no ruling lord and Est is the single member of the group. Furthermore steel is far too specific, if it were iron I might be able to along with it, say metal and I've got no complaints.

I know that she doesn't actually destroy the curses but, to the ones who don't know about the specifics, it seems that way. That's part of the reason she was given the title of Sacred Sword.

Est is made of purely Steel and is more powerful than the Elemental Lords, why would there be an Elemental Lord for her? Besides, it was never stated that all spirits must be one of the 6 elemental types. Est is unique, end of story.....

GetInDaZone222 · 2015-02-16, 18:27

Im curious, was it stated that shes the only steel attribute spirit? Just for example, Jio used sword spirits that could possibily be classified as steel attribute(although they were never actually specified). I also cant see why steel isnt classified as an element. There have been other spirits that dont have elements that are directly related to the 5 elemental lords.

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DragonKing0117 A Non-Awakened Prince Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Age: 27	So I just randomly discovered this while looking at a certain raw site. http://www.dmpbooks.com/books/2030/ It seems like the manga was licensed with the first Volume being released on January 28th and nobody even realized it. I'm not sure how to feel about this anymore. __________________ Undefeated Bahamut Chronicle Wiki - If you've read and enjoyed the series, please help out! We now have a social group!!! Cipher J's Blog\|Fan and Original Fiction Database - A blog that I recently made to serve as a backup place for all my fan/original fiction. Feel free to check it out if you like.

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Ophis Dragon God Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Beyond the stars turning left and after passing by a Super Nova enter the Black Hole. House N°∞	Est is a spirit with purely Steel as attribute. She's called Sacred Sword because of her ability to destroy curses, and that she's the sword that was used to kill Solomon. __________________ "Now, let’s open the curtains on our play. A hell fire banquet of fear and madness, where even the ashes will be burnt to nothing!" - One of 72 Demon Gods of Solomon, The Demon God Belial

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ImperialFlameGod8190 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012	yea i've been losing touch with a lot and this is one of those series that hasnt had much in a while. Still whats sad is at its time Blade Dance had a lot of potential and it feels like the anime ruined that potential because it revealed a fatal flaw in the show. Early on None of the characters were really likeable and the blade dance while its nasty has a ton of flaws __________________ Trinity seven social group Im the current vice-general of the DxD Army (aka the translators army. We support translators efforts and i do not tolerate impatience by people waiting for translations https://www.fanfiction.net/u/6980252/ This is my fanfiction page i have 6 stories to check out if you guys are interested

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amtro Distro Join Date: Jun 2009	It was posted some time ago, I do remember looking up the source a year ago, but now I've forgotten what it was. It is however tagged on yandere said to be from petite cerisier, I can confirm that not a single one of the petite cerisier galleries/books has this picture (they're ero and NFSW, not linking here or in PMs).

2015-02-16, 17:30	Link #7615
amtro Distro Join Date: Jun 2009	Actually she's more of a "cursed sword". The "sacred" bit comes from her being the mighty weapon of the great hero, in reality she's strong as heck and gradually steals the life of its user.

2015-02-16, 17:47	Link #7617
amtro Distro Join Date: Jun 2009	She doesn't destroy curses, she eats them. She absorbs them and they add to the original curse, the more curses she absorbs the greater the strain on the user. Areishia died because of Est's curses. Also "steel" isn't a designated element in the LN, it has no ruling lord and Est is the single member of the group. Furthermore steel is far too specific, if it were iron I might be able to along with it, say metal and I've got no complaints.

2015-02-16, 18:27	Link #7620
GetInDaZone222 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Texas	Im curious, was it stated that shes the only steel attribute spirit? Just for example, Jio used sword spirits that could possibily be classified as steel attribute(although they were never actually specified). I also cant see why steel isnt classified as an element. There have been other spirits that dont have elements that are directly related to the 5 elemental lords.