Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Discussion & News [Spoilers]

[RAVNEN]

Originally Posted by Mangaka-chan

Spoilers translated by Good Haro on /m/

Spoiler for Regarding episodes 11 and 12:

From Gundam Ace via http://blog.goo.ne.jp/kouryakukan

○11話「ダブルオーの声」
オーライザーの調整が進む中、アロウズの新兵器が稼働。
アロウズやリボンズのやり方に激しい憤りを覚えた
ティエリアはついにイノベイターの存在をCBの仲間に話す。

○12話「宇宙で待ってる」
アロウズの強襲にあい、脱出をはかるトレミーだが
マネキンの戦略と新型MSに苦戦を強いられる。
そんな中、ツインドライヴが真の能力を発揮する。

Episode 11: “Double O’s Voice”
While O-Raiser is being adjusted, the A-Laws new vessel begins operation. Tieria who remembers Ribbons and the A-Laws’ way of doing things with furious indignation/resentment finally tells his CB comrades about the Innovators’ existence.

Episode 12: “Waiting in Space”
Ptolemy tries to escape a violent assault by the A-Laws but Mannequin’s strategy and a new unit put up a hard fight. During that time, the Twin Drive demonstrates it’s true capacity.

Yay,00 will show it true power.Look like A-Laws will have new vessel,I wonder if it will be Mannequin vs Sumeragi.Ship vs ship just in Seed Archangel vs Minerva,wuhuu.

[Demongod86]

Originally Posted by sgogeta4

Stop watching then... there is only so much creativeness a Gundam series can have...

I'm not complaining about creativity...I'm complaining about the CONSTANT right-on-the-nick-of-time saving. We get it. They're absolutely safe until the last several episodes by virtue of Deus-Ex plot devices.

[LoweGear]

It's not like we didn't see the 00's full potential being unleashed, but I'm glad it's this soon in the season rather than later.

@Demongod86:

Maybe you should actually see how they handle the events of the episode first before complaining? Also the only thing that classified as a deus ex is the Trans-Am: every other device had at least a justification for its existence (like the foreshadowing of the Thrones and the early mentions of the GN Arms), and it's not like they let DEM in during the last fights of the first season. Besides, the revelation of secret gimmicks is one of the few ways CB can ensure they're a step ahead of their enemies, most especially this season where they can no longer bully the ESF as easily they did the three power blocs in S1.

[Ottocycle]

Well given that this show is not V Gundam, the main cast should be safe until the last few episodes. I get it too.

Though to me, what matters is how they do it and keep the methods fresh, I don't really mind if it keeps coming up. It's a minor irritant, at most.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by The Small One

I think Ribbons is indeed working for Aeolia's goal. It's just, that his way may differ from the way, Aeolia originally intended. Or he follows the right way and the original CB made it different.
Nonetheless, I think both parties are working towards the same goal, and it's just a conflict of how to achieve it.

Setsuna is the one with the Twin-Drive. So whatever way they go is the right way.
If Ribbons was going the way Aeolia intended, he would have been given the twin-drive and tran-zam.

Aeolia didn't give all his secrets to the Innovators for a reason; the Meisters were chose as his true successors, no matter what Ribbons might believe.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Demongod86

LMFAO. We thought Kira had hax...but here in G00 it's just ridiculous. "Oh they're in trouble again! WAIT, DEUS EX FTW!"

First it was the Trinities, then GN-arms, then Trans-AM, now it's "00's true form", etc. etc. etc.

You're over-reacting just a little bit don't you think? It's called advancing the story, and it happens quite a lot in just about any show.

[LightningZERO]

Episode 12, 00 Raizer debuts!

Originally Posted by blitz1/2

I will smash something if it ends up like, Aeolia's plan was to force people to live in space so that they will evolve into Newtypes. Oh whoops.

LOL. Prepare to smash something now?

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

You're over-reacting just a little bit don't you think? It's called advancing the story, and it happens quite a lot in just about any show.

I think it's finally time to put Demongod86 on my ignore list... Pity, he used to contribute to threads. I didn't want to resort to this.

[patnam]

Aeolia's true purpose for his plan is making the beginning of the UC?

[duotiga]

so we can safely say 00 is the prequel of UC?

[brightman]

Originally Posted by duotiga

so we can safely say 00 is the prequel of UC?

Next Gundam series confirmed : Remake of MSG with 00 as its backstory!!!!

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by duotiga

so we can safely say 00 is the prequel of UC?

I don't think we can safely say it, though thanks to episode 08 we have more reasons to think so. It's a nice theory and it's one i think a lot of people will end up using. Let's just see how this series ends, or if anything official is ever mentioned (probably not).

[Narona]

Originally Posted by duotiga

so we can safely say 00 is the prequel of UC?

I am a noob, sorry >o<, by "UC", you refer to which gundam series?

[patnam]

Originally Posted by brightman

Next Gundam series confirmed : Remake of MSG with 00 as its backstory!!!!

possible going to have a person who known as Amuro Ray's ancester...

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Narona

I am a noob, sorry >o<, by "UC", you refer to which gundam series?

Universal Century, it's where the original, Zeta Gundam and so on are set.

[justsomeguy]

Originally Posted by duotiga

so we can safely say 00 is the prequel of UC?

Impossible, given that GN mobile suits (heck, even Flags/Enacts) perform far above UC0079 suits. Unless there's some kind of catastrophe followed by a "dark age" where technology and knowledge is lost.

Or something like this: Saji discovers GN time travel, and builds a GN Time Machine. He uses it to travel to the far past, into another dimension. Introducing himself as "Dr. Minovsky," he introduces the GN drive to his new world, and encourages colony-building as a way of separating the overpopulated world, believing that his actions would bring about peace and prosperity. Meanwhile, in AD world, Setsuna defeats the A-Laws, Ali's Arche Gundam, and Ribbon's 000 Gundam, bringing about peace and prosperity

[duotiga]

Originally Posted by brightman

Next Gundam series confirmed : Remake of MSG with 00 as its backstory!!!!

nw you mentioned it it might be a high possibililty for that to happen also

[Glio]

Impossible, given that GN mobile suits (heck, even Flags/Enacts) perform far above UC0079 suits. Unless there's some kind of catastrophe followed by a "dark age" where technology and knowledge is lost.

Wouldn't that just be a lame excuse?
That'd be just like Turn A, but it wouldn't really be thousands of years apart.

[blitz1/2]

Originally Posted by LightningZERO

Episode 12, 00 Raizer debuts!



LOL. Prepare to smash something now?

Already did. I broke my pencil in half while reading the news. I hit the table, ended up with a sore hand for the afternoon.

[LoweGear]

As justsomeguy said, the tech level of AD in 00 is so far above that of UC technology. The Gundams themselves already have roughly Victory era tech (reactionless drive tech). There's also the fact that nuclear weapons and powerplants are still in use in UC, yet AD has outlawed nuclear technology (which is part of Celestial Being's plan). The level of inconsistency of the tech level and setting between UC and AD is so great that unless a Turn-A like reset happens, 00 being the precursor to UC is not happening.