2012-02-12, 08:52 | Link #61 | |
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Incidentally, the latest chapter seemed to make a big deal about Siegfried's last name being Housman, which I don't remember whether was mentioned before. The name Housman certainly sounds familiar though, I think possibly as some famous person in establishing one of the countries? Could anyone who has read through the series more recently confirm whether the name Housman came up before, not in connection with Siegfried? |
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2012-08-13, 02:53 | Link #71 | |
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2012-08-13, 04:11 | Link #73 |
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Yeah, I ran into some discussion about that at some point too. Basically, I did think Siegfried not having the 'facilities' to rape Cecily was bit of a copout so this confirmation does make my opinion of the scene we saw a bit worse while improving my impression of the original author's intention. However in the end the scene managed to be fairly powerful even despite the changes, so I guess it's okay. I'm generally disappointed that this series wasn't able to push for more ambition and artistic integrity, though.
Anyway, so the author of this light novel series is actually a woman? That's pretty cool. I can see how a lot of the themes/characteristics of this series are reflective/supportive of that position so I wish her the best of luck in its success/continuation. |
2012-08-13, 04:18 | Link #74 | |
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So what in the original version she get bashed and raped then shes back to fighting monsters next chapter??
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2012-08-13, 08:22 | Link #75 | |
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For the record, even in this 'not-actually-raped' manga version Cecily takes up to two chapters recovering before she gets back to "fighting monsters", as you put it. The character development involved wouldn't be any different from if she had actually been raped, because the most important blow to Cecily was to her pride and ideals. Regardless, the use or non-use of physical rape itself is important for reflecting the reality of such situations, as an analogue to the oppression faced by real women themselves in the face of male hatred/misogyny and prejudice, who would never have such a convenient excuse in such a situation as "oh whoops, he can't actually rape me". The fact that the author was pressured into changing this aspect of the story is reflective of the delusional outlook of a male audience obsessed with "purity" as a matter of objectifying fictional female characters, not only completely ignoring them as real personalities, but wilfully turning a blind eye to real world injustice and cruelty. It's practically the definition of a victory of escapism versus real world significance, the degradation of an artistic mirror to society. |
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2012-08-13, 12:12 | Link #77 | |
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Some guy listed down around 120+ anime titles that were released in 2012 alone (the year isn't even over yet), and only 5 or 6 discussed anything close to rape. If it's overused, we should have so many rape in anime. There are so many stories out there, and I would suggest that if ANYONE actually listed them up, it would show that rape is so unused in manga or light novels or anime, people claiming overuse would have to use another word to sound their displeasure. It's like authors are not allowed to tell their stories anymore. While you may not agree with how they tell their stories, saying "x is a crap author just because he had a rape story" is complete bull. They would be crap authors if they couldn't follow up with what they've done or if they sucked beforehand. Not if they just put in an event for their story. That's just asinine, asiten, asitwelve.
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2012-08-13, 18:48 | Link #80 | |
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I'm not really someone who can argue what's good writing so I can't really have an opinion on either camp, but that's what I've observed from discussions I've seen on similar subjects. Of course, one thing that does incense me is that the Japanese fans felt so entitled that they react in such a way, so much so that they had to change it. Honestly this clears things up concerning certain details with Cecily that didn't exactly mesh. Her reaction, while understandable, didn't seem to match considering what didn't happen. Of course, this doesn't change her character development, but it just annoys me that creativity gets tied up because of idiocy. |
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