2024-05-06, 00:43 | Link #63 |
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I know they want to club to be full 'meritocracy' But Kumiko is pushing the new 3rd year girl a bit annoying. She even gives many outs that she doesn't mind making way for the longer standing members, and I get her, she just joined seemingly sudden and isn't as invested in the National goal as the rest.
I'm on the side of "do it for the experience" Sure, try as hard for nationals, but 90% of these 3rd year band members, this is going to be the last they're ever gonna do a marching band thing. Half might not attend college and just jump into the work force, and more than half of those won't be signing up for the much more competitive college marching band clubs. So having Kumiko who's been aiming hard for it for 3 years, and then lose out on the audition to this fresh 3rd year member who doesn't even want to take her spot is silly. I guess its a reflection of Kumiko's view on music and if its that important to her and stuff. But that's my view on what's happening.
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2024-05-06, 01:04 | Link #64 | |
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Gee, after that episode, I showed up here eagerly anticipating another round of "Are Kumiko and Reina yuribait?" Imagine my disappointment. |
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2024-05-12, 11:46 | Link #65 |
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Yet, another member confronts Kumiko that Kumiko and Shuuichi are secretly going out.
This episode also shows the tension between two girls who have tendency to speak out their minds. Mayu Kuroe knows she is a better player than other students. When she says she is worry that others cannot make it, she indirectly says others are not good enough. Is her attitude the reason she got transferred to Kumiko's school? Kanade Hisaishi is known for questioning other people. She immediately points out that Mayu has the attitude problem. Kumiko is relieved after Kanade calms down. Kumiko plays the role of a counselor again. The student is unhappy with the teacher's decision. Kumiko is playing the "nice guy" and Reina is playing the "bad guy". Their goal is the national. Last edited by scififan; 2024-05-23 at 12:37. |
2024-05-13, 22:50 | Link #67 | |
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An absolutely fantastic episode once again.
The drama and tension built up nicely. Overall the auditions went smoothly. Mayu continued her uncertain stance, but continues to go along with it for now. Honestly it's really just a matter of time until we actually get into what the heck happened to her that's made her that uncomfortable. But we're not getting there now. The good thing about the tension is it bringing the best out of some people. Kumiko rose to the occasion and I'm sure she gave a far better performance knowing she was up against someone of Mayu's level than if she was only dealing with Kanade and a first year. Of course the odds are good now that Kumiko will lose that spot after the second audition since she can then triumphantly find herself and retake it through the final audition. But that's something to tackle later. Good for Hazuki too. She worked her butt off for years and fell short so many times. But she didn't let the disappointment break her. She just kept working and finally earned her spot. Good on her . And I kind of like the way Taki approached the tubas. While taking someone with less overall skill has it's pros/cons there is value to it. The pure power of her tuba can add quite a bit even at the cost of having her stay quiet during parts that she's not able to ideally handle yet. Plus there's plenty of chances for Satsuki to make her comeback . Quote:
And she certainly can't back off after what happened in the first year. Support Reina taking the spot that she deserved but be weak and let Mayu back off because she might lose the soli part? In the end it's not like Kumiko won't be there if Mayu competes. The worst case scenario is losing the soli part with Reina. That would suck, but it's overall a lesser evil than dropping the quality of their group. I'd say some waves were made because it wasn't just the usual people. Hazuki making it after the way the first two years went is a huge moment for her. Kept up with the work and finally earned her place there. While Suzume making it over Satsuki isn't insane it was a surprising turn for the individuals involved.
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2024-05-14, 23:53 | Link #68 | |
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His reason in essence is that Suzume played louder in the audition. My question is whether he mentioned it to anyone, so they had a fair chance to emphasize the right things in the audition. Suzume is still too new to think of much more than making all the right notes sound. Satsuki probably can consciously trade off b/w precision and power, and in an audition I would think most players would emphasize the former without a good reason otherwise. Even after the audition, Taki doesn't volunteer what he's looking for until he's asked - is Kumiko supposed to pass this information out or keep it to herself? Of course, the other possibility is that Satsuki just didn't have the raw breath capacity to compete despite spending a year on increasing it. If she's so far behind Taki is willing to throw away one-third of his Tuba tone production at the higher registers, her future in Tubas seem bleak indeed. Oh, and I really don't like Mayu's passive-aggressive thing. It's arrogant, and constantly mouthing it is frankly disgusting. It may be against the themes of the story, but here's my view: If you believe that you are good enough you are in control, and you want to throw the match, just throw it. Privately. If you don't, just blow your best. If you are ambivalent, just go with whatever you ended up doing at the audition. Don't go wallowing around like a drunk cow in a public space going "I can. Should I? Should I not?" Spoiler for "An Extraneous Detail':
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2024-05-15, 02:05 | Link #69 | |
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Mayu's words mean no harm. She just doesn't know how to express her concern properly. She is described as a humble person, and she doesn't mean to offend anyone. On the other hand, Reina's attitude was rude, but she didn't know how to resolve the conflicts. So, Reina faced the confrontation head on. When confronting the similar situation, Kumiko only knew to make apology. I think the role of Mayu is to bring out the inferiority complex of Kumiko. During the movie production, the author was asked to create a secret boss(of video game) for the school. She came up Mayu, who is Kumiko's mirror reflection. The word "style" is used as the body shape in Japanese. Kumiko felt frustrated when she saw Asuka's "style" and Reina's "style". Mayu's "style" still frustrated Kumiko a little bit. Finding Mayu playing same instrument causes concern to Kumiko. Mayu has established herself as the member of A-Team, from her previous school, which had reputation for strong band. Kumiko wanted to play her older sister's instrument, but she never get the chance to play it. She played the same instrument for years. When she is proud that she is the best player of the instrument in her school, Mayu joins the club. It turns out Mayu plays the same instrument. It might be Kumiko's weakness. Her attitude makes her trustworthy by her fellow students. She only opens her heart to few friends, because they do not pose a threat to her position in the band. Spoiler for friendship and competition:
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2024-05-15, 06:20 | Link #70 |
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Mayu is nice. People overanalyzing as if she was some malicious person are wrong. In fact Kumiko hasn't dropped her "everyone wants you to play" attitude she pulled on Asuka and Kanade. She lied to Mayu too about Kitauji desiring the better player at all times. Mayu wants to avoid a situation like is Season 1 where the Band will have to choose between her and Kumiko but Kumiko just brushes it off.
Even Kanade tried to mediate by relating her stunt in Chikai no Finale. Asuka wants Hibike! Euphonium to be shared but Kumiko hides it the moment someone is interested. |
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It's clear Mayu is trying to be friends, but she is very awkward about it. And keeps unintentionally touching Kumiko's sore spots. I also agree with arkhangelsk. No matter how well intentioned, her repeated proposals to throw the audition are horrible.
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2024-05-19, 11:50 | Link #72 |
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I like that we're getting into Mayu's head a bit more with this one. It puts her actions into a bit more context. Makes sense that someone that doesn't fixate on anything or feels lacking in a sense of self would feel uncomfortable taking anything away from people passionately chasing their goals. Honestly that is probably what is giving Kumiko the edge over Mayu right now. Kumiko may be struggling in various ways, but she is passionate about reaching their band goals.
Honestly if Mayu's passion can be unlocked or if she has any sort of breakthrough that probably will make it tough for Kumiko to fend her off in a future audition. But makes sense that Kumiko has figured out her discomfort. Mayu works hard to not make any waves, be generally likable, and yet keeps a certain distance. Even to the degree of excluding herself from pictures. As if she just wants to be there and then disappear...Mentioned having a lot of pictures from her time at Seira, but I'd expect she's in none of them. Reina and Kumiko's interactions really are either Reina being super cute or Kumiko having fun at her expense from being so cute . And yeah it really shows how close they've gotten at this point that they are both wearing matching swimsuits and mixing up the tops and bottoms .
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2024-05-22, 12:42 | Link #79 |
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Kumiko never thought about going to a music college. She chose her current high school because it still has sailor uniform. Also, she wanted to start a new life with new friends. Her middle school team won the dud gold, which was winning regional gold but failed to make it to national(or winning national gold). Kumiko really wants her school to win a national gold. So, she broke up with Shuichi. She was drowning in the loving feeling and afraid she could not reached her goal. Since Mayu's school had experience winning gold from the national competition, getting Mayu involved was aligning with Kumiko's goal.
Azusa, Kumiko's teammate, happy, because she won the ticket to the high school with emphasize in music. Azusa knows Kumiko got shouted by her senpai when Kumiko won the spot instead of her senpai. She knew it was not the factor that Kumiko had no about music school. When Azusa has nothing to do, she plays music. Her effort paid off. Her school is also the gold winner from the national competition. Her activity in her current school enable her to be eligible for a music college. Reina, Kumiko's another teammate, was sad about the dud gold(not eligible for the national competition). Kumiko thought the national was way beyond their ability. Reina declined the enrollment offer from Azusa's high school. Reina and her elementary school friend once compete for playing piano spot. After Reina won, her explanation was she had more practice more often than her friend. Her friend got angry in anime. She told Reina she didn't have piano to practice at home, unlike Reina. Reina's goal is to become a musician. Both Reina and Mizore's families can and are willing to afford extra music lessosn and their music instrument. So, talent, environment, and effort are all important to get into music industry. Nevertheless, Reina's silly reason not to attend Azusa's high school is getting in her way to become a musician. Kudo for Mayu, Kumiko's negative emotion shows on her face. Mayu does what Reina failed to achieved, although that episode was said to be the anime original. It is probably fine for Kumiko, just some ouch moment. There is one conspiracy theory on why Mayu acts that way. Since no one treats it seriously, it was never refuted. The conspiracy theory is as a non-Kyoto native, she unintentionally uses Kyoto style mockery. It rubs her Kyoto female classmates the wrong way. Midori uses animal to describes her classmates. Midori compares Mayu to jellyfish. She looks beautiful, but getting close to her will get stung by poison. I think it is exaggeration. Midori is right on people most of time, but she is wrong this time. Spoiler for Stereotypes according to Japanese Internet, or Tokyo people.:
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