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We just gonna have wait and see what he does when Zen has him, but this path is not unusual for character in his position when faced something highly unprecedented and the limits of human laws are forcibly laid bare to this sort of scenario. Honestly when I think about it reminds of Kougami ditching Sybl's control to catch Mikashima in PP S1. Quote:
I mean the show is not perfect or anything, but it's made point on various level that Zen not fighting a normal criminal. It's someone who can effectively get away with murder by a either unknown or well disguised method. Quote:
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2019-11-12, 19:51 | Link #63 |
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On the other hand, there have been a spate of cop shows this season and last, and every one of them has some supernatural angle. It's as though a straightforward detective story with ordinary humans is insufficient to meet the demands of today's audience.
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2019-11-12, 20:42 | Link #64 | ||
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It's like that whole chess move in Code Geass, it doesn't matter how many explanations you bring up to justify it, someone in the show should have pointed out that that was an illegal move, and the lack of any comment of that kind really betrays the author's lack of understanding of the subject he's treating. The same thing applies here, someone should have pointed out that you can't legalize what is already legal, that you don't need a law that states that something is legal, because anything that isn't declared illegal is already automatically legal. Quote:
Someone possessing supernatural powers is definitely an exceptional case, and to even think that someone actually does that you need exceptional evidence. In the case of Magase Ai I believe such evidence exists, but in the case of Itsuki there's really nothing that would make a rational person think so. It is certainly reasonable to think that Itsuki is involved in the incident, but to think he himself used ESP powers? When all the evidence that Zen possesses points straight to Ai? The other possibility is that he somehow thinks that Ai is following Itsuki's orders and that she would do nothing without Itsuki's commands. In which case... seriously, Zen? After all you've learned from her you think she's just a pawn? Putting on the line the career of so many police officers for something that has almost zero chances of actually stopping the series of suicides, sounds like a very poor conceived gambit to me.
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2019-11-12, 20:58 | Link #65 |
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Itsuki's new suicide law doesn't make people kill themselves. It's Ai who did something to their brains. Or people think it must be fun to jump of buildings.
The main guy is desperado but I thought his grand plan may be something other than kidnapping Itsuki. (Actually I shouldn't talk 'cause I skimmed some parts since I was kind of bored but I thought he wasn't serious about the kidnapping.) |
2019-11-14, 01:09 | Link #67 | |
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That debate was......facepalm worthy. The arguments of the opposition....It's like they aren't even trying. The moral guy alone has more than enough reasons why suicide of healthy individuals is morally wrong but he never even raised them and he and his compatriots just quietly folded over.
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2019-11-15, 18:11 | Link #68 | |||
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Zen sees Itsuki as Ai's accomplice and vice versa. He doesn't have those powers himself to be just as guilty if he's using her knowing so as she is him. I mean if a client of a hitman orders assassination of a target, the client is still culprit even if they pull the trigger themselves. Zen is probably hoping the one will lead to the other. Quote:
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2019-11-18, 13:31 | Link #71 |
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Abnormally heavy episode. After I'll check to see if the one on TV was the same as on Amazon. So far there have been no differences, but this ep has been special ..But from the images, it looks like it will be the same, something like that being displayed at 10pm on a non-AT-X channel is pretty unusua: http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/162890
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2019-11-18, 18:44 | Link #72 |
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Okay at this point I'm almost certain that "Sekuro" was Magase all along. People started killing themselves only after "Sekuro" left, and then she was conveniently missing.
Then we see Magase with a Sekuro tied up, but we cannot clearly see her face nor we can hear her voice. That was probably the real Sekuro who died, but Magase must have kidnapped her a long time before and then she replaced her and posed as her to closely observe Zen. In a way she prevented him from becoming a criminal.
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2019-11-19, 13:43 | Link #74 |
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The first seven episodes of the series will re-air beginning on Tokyo MX on November 25 at 10:00 p.m. I hope this means the series is popular there. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...ber-30/.153445
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2019-11-20, 07:24 | Link #76 | |
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Wow, that was absolutely brutal ending. I wish I hadn’t watched this episode just before work because I won't be able to get my mind off of that scene for the entire day. Puts me in mind of when Makishima Shougo killed Akane’s friend right in front of her in PsychoPass. It’s the kind of brutality that I’ve complained is missing in PsychoPass Season 3 currently airing, so imagine my surprise finding it here instead.
Though I’m still not that okay with Magase’s ridiculous brainwashing powers, and to this point it’s still something that largely happens off screen so it’s still an unconvincing Informed Attribute to me. If Magase convinced Seizaki to kill himself at the end of that brutal scene I would have bought it completely, but that’s clearly not what she does with the others. I was rather impressed with the curveball at the start of the episode and how it turned out the only reason Itsuki was doing all this was to save his son. Although I’m not in position to judge this all that well because I don’t know the laws of Japan but they didn’t really seem to touch on the law surrounding organ donations. If Itsuki was a registered organ donor, wouldn’t his heart go to his son if he committed suicide anyway? Though I suppose if it were legalized, the advantage would be that hospitals could actually develop assisted suicide procedures that are clean and peaceful for the organ donor so they don’t have to kill themselves in violent manners. This is all off the top of my head though so I’d probably have to look at this subject matter in more detail for a more informed opinion. But it certainly makes a lot more sense now why he is doing this. Why he didn’t just make that argument to begin with though I don’t really get. And the question remains is why he’s sided with a dangerous serial killer just to do all this. Even if he does have a point about assisted suicide for organ donors, his working together with Magase is impossible to overlook. Quote:
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2019-11-20, 09:04 | Link #77 |
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What I didn't see coming are: 1. Itsuki is actually eloquent and charismatic. 2. Ai is Itsuki's wife (if that). The one reason I watched this show was to find out Ai's background and her motives but now I also want to know how Itsuki will come out from this mess. I'm certainly not in this to see the main guy squirm from Ai's sadistic tortures nor am I that interested to see how he will "defeat" her. I'm more interested in a Itsuki vs. Ai's showdown. But unfortunately, he's not the main guy.
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2019-11-20, 14:50 | Link #78 | |
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A quick Google search shows there is considerably controversy over whether it is legal or ethical to end one's life to become an organ donor. Euthanasia as a mechanism for organ donation is legal in Canada, Belgium and the Netherlands. Physicians who specialize in organ transplants are unsurprisingly nervous about this procedure becoming a trend.
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Uh.....huh. Please tell me Magase's point ultimately is something deeper than "just because evil." After all, even saints don't do good things "just because good" either. But after how derpy she was at the end swinging that ax, I'm not holding my breath.
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