2008-06-12, 03:50 | Link #61 | |
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Misa breaks several archetypes and a number of glass ceilings throughout the show. Whiny and frantic Bridge Bunny. Shot down in the first episode despite accidently sending a complete noob into a fight with unknown aliens. Later she get's out of the bridge... but that's another story. Cinderella. Needs rescuing from the 'Tower' at times. Otherwise, she's redefined ship to ship combat in the modern age >_< Let's not forget about the Nuke. Too smart for her own good. As above. Now add Zentradi baiting The good part about it is when she has a good idea, a lot of people tend to live longer. She figured out what makes a Zentradi tick simply by observation, and was spot on in her theory. I suspect that her report on the effect of her demonstration would be very clinical. And she's HOT. For about a dozen or so episodes I was thinking 'Old Maid', then she got very wet and her personality... changed. That's another favourite episode, next to a VF getting smashed in a scene that had me rooting for the enemy. |
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2008-06-12, 03:57 | Link #62 | |
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2008-06-12, 09:00 | Link #64 | |
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Even our Heroic Captain relaxes more on the bridge than she does. |
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2008-06-12, 17:36 | Link #66 | ||
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Seriously, there's reasons why Misa was beloved by many fans - she could be, in today's terms, be described as a tsundere... but one more in the mold of Major Kusanagi than say... Naru Hasegawa. Quote:
It's only after Mars Base that we see the other side of her; the vulnerable girl who fell in love with an older man (or at least had a really hard crush for him), then locked herself up in business for years. Until this snotty civilian pilot started getting under her skin, and began yelling at her instead of treating her with the respect due to her rank... Sorta like a certain, long-haired pilot began to yell at a pink-haired idol, 25 years later. One whose introduction similiarly made her appear to be a diva of the worst sort, and a bitch to boot. Which made the scene of Cathy calling her a bitch under her breath even more ironic for the original fans of SDF Macross - Misa's visual copy calling someone who'd acted like Misa during her introduction the same thing. |
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2008-06-12, 17:46 | Link #67 | |
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In the early episodes the nearest we see her to being relaxed on the bridge is her joke about using secondhand parts. And even that is more her usual dread irony and sarcasm than seeing the humour in the situation. To begin with she isn't relaxed, she hasn't found her center and that throws off her decisions, especially where Hikaru is concerned. The scene where she overrides him about leaving Max to escort her recon plane for example. In the early days it seems that she thinks that as the admiral's daughter she has to be better than every one and to do that she has to be hard and she doesn't understand why the other bridge crew don't see it as necessary to be cold and hard too. Mars is where she reaches the limit of her ability to wall herself in and she cracks under the strain. The Captain manages stress better. |
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2008-06-12, 19:16 | Link #69 |
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Ya know, with all these Misa talk, let us not forget that Misa's problems were largely personal, while the Captain had to bear the responsibility of some 50,000 lives aboard the Macross. Should he fail, well, there goes 50,000 people, humanity and everything else along with it.
Of course, the good Captain also had to occasionally tend to Misa's personal problem, which doesn't help the situation, that is in addition to Misa already being a workaholic. Some props for the Captain folks. - Tak |
2008-06-12, 19:19 | Link #70 | |
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2008-06-12, 20:11 | Link #71 |
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He's a bit more archetypical however. Being halfway between Bright and Okita and halfway between Harlock and Haddock on an orthogonal axis. About where Hijikata/Gideon is.
A hat didn't help Col. Maistrov. The Hat of Command is something the True Captain wears on the inside. Like the younger Kodai or Lafiel she has to grow into it. |
2008-06-12, 20:30 | Link #72 | |
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2008-06-12, 20:44 | Link #73 | ||
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2008-06-12, 21:02 | Link #74 | |
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Sometimes I really wonder who is the real Captain on the bridge of the SDF-1 In addition to the operational work, Misa put in a number of tactical insights that has saved the ship's collective asses time and again. Then again, she started the series as a LT and ended up as it's first expeditionary and colonisation fleet admiral. Now that's breaking the glass ceiling. But the love here comes from how she isn't superhumanly perfect like Miriya or charismatic as Idol Minmay. Despite being apparently smarter than many of the characters combined, there are times when her lapses in judgement have proven to be dangerous [and for Canada-fatal >_<]. Half the fun is watching her fall down hard, the other half is how quickly she picks up the pieces and moves on. Girl works hard, and is harder on herself during times of weakness. Have to agree on the classic definition of tsun-dere attached. She goes through the full range of human emotions from cold, jealous and vengeful to caring and playful [Misa+baby is ]. That's suprising because I never tagged the character to display all that in the beginning- probably explains her appeal to many. |
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2008-06-13, 05:05 | Link #76 |
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You know, I'm surprised the name Macross isn't regarded as a curse, rather than an honorific. Think about it. The thing crash lands, flattening cities as it's hurtling through the atmosphere, probably killing thousands in the process. Then the world has the big idea of fighting WWIII over it, probably killing millions all in the name "unification". And on the day it's finally ready to launch, it probably kills thousands more when it's automatic defense system kicks in. Later, more thousands as it's fold system drags a pair of aircraft carriers into the depths of space (that was just a stupid useless move on Global's part).
I haven't finished the series yet, but I've read that ultimately the damn thing is responsible for killing off 99.9% of the human race! But no, everyone in the future regards the frickin' thing as humanity's finest achievement, to be lauded and up held as a standard, rather than the greatest disaster in the history of mankind. It'd only be due justice if the billions of dead and forgotten rose from their unmarked graves and had an orgy of supernaturally induced violence on what's left of humanity for being "culture"-obsesssed, depraved loons. |
2008-06-13, 05:26 | Link #77 | |
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It time to "Look at the Brighter Side of Life" Metlandi- biggest improvement to the human race when they showed up and decided to stay. So what billions died in the process, those that remain have plenty of company who like us [and they're hot to boot]. The social change has been amazing. People marry young, are generally more responsible with children and have more of them. I'd say the survivors have it good when there's lots of willing partners [see above]. Humanity has become decidedly less violent and militant in the aftermath. Generally, the first contact response since then for near any alien race is to regale them with song and dance. It's only when that fails do the hardcore veteran units to show up with nukes, wave motion guns and a pissed off legion of giant warriors. I suspect that near any alien race meeting the colony fleets are in for some big suprises. Unless of course they cheat with mind control and automated weapons Yes, the SDF-1 can be regarded as an icon of disaster: only if the survivors took it as such. Those who remained, however, thought themselves as successors to the culture of their race. It is that grace that allowed them to live on in a suddenly dangerous universe. Look at the result from the point of view of "I a worthy to exist because I have love and passion", and the crusade to spread that ideal to anything they meet. Ya, very Abh-like [which is another favourite of mine]. |
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2008-06-13, 06:00 | Link #79 | |
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Years later, the human-zentradi alliance had an even bigger influx of Metlandi converts [or is it Fangirls ] so the sex with themselves idea probably stopped. |
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