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Also, "not apologizing when you did something clearly wrong to someone you supposedly care about" is NOT a positive characteristic. Quote:
Sasuke knew that most of the village was unaware of what was happening to the uchiha, that the coup and genocide was the work of ONLY members of a select few of the leadership and that some members of the leadership even tried to STOP that situation from happening in the first place and worked to protect itachi. Sasuke basically knew that the ONLY ones guilty of itachi's suffering was Danzou and a few other elders and that everyone else was innocent... yet despite knowing that he decided he would destroy EVERYONE, regardless of their innocence because they unknowingly benefitted from itachi's suffering(he conveniently ignores that fact that he too was meant to benefit from Itachi's sacrifice aswell, but he effectively was throwing it away). This flies in the face of everything Itachi fought and died for; sasuke in essence was going to render Itachi's sacrifices all meaningless. Itachi sacrificed himself and went through hell to stop war and give sasuke a good future in Konoha and Sasuke just spat on his grave. His thinking was just totally backwards. Sasuke saw nothing wrong with trying to kill people who had nothing to do with itachi's suffering like Bee and he even went so far as to stab his own loyal allies in the back. Its all just disgusting. And y'know i'm not even sure it even lines up with how a psycho would act in real life. With alot of them there is something very wrong about the way the think, like things they THINK are true that allows them to create a flawed rationalization for the horrible things they do. Like Bigots who rationalize their hatred for an entire race or group because they honestly believe that EVERY member of that group is the same. Sasuke doesn't have any such flawed rationalization to his actions; he's been told EXACTLY what happened and understands it; his actions are not only horrible but they also don't make sense even to his own mind. And that is one of the major differences between Sarada and Sasuke. Sasuke's reaction to everything ultimately doesn't make much sense and THAT is what makes it less identifiable; I lost all sympathy for his character when he intended to harm those he KNEW were innocent. Sarada however, her reactions are actually believable; she reacts in the way most anyone would react in a similar situation. And really, none of it is her fault; Sarada is simply a victim of the circumstances that others put her in, and isn't really making things worst. Sasuke started like that, but then he went on to make the lives of others miserable and thus contribute to the problems that was started by others.
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Flawed thinking is also a major character trait of his (and all prominent Uchiha). His thinking was flawed ever since the start of the story (just not as bad). He was hellbent on revenge at all costs. Kakashi tried to get him to think more clearly, but it was impossible. Quote:
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Most people here often like to emphasize Sasuke’s evil deeds, but never seem to want to acknowledge what made him become that way. What makes it worse is that Kishimoto has been wailing on the dead horse of socialization for about a decade(we’re explicitly shown how every villain becomes a villain), to get the point across to children yet, it seems to go right over your heads somehow. Quote:
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For sasuke's motivations and actions to actually work there has to be something he fails to understand, something that he's missing that helps create his utterly screwed up perspective. But he's not missing anything, he knows the full truth and knows, he knows everything we know but he draws a completely different conclusion... Really his story might have worked better if Madara had simply lied to sasuke or left certain details out, such as neglecting to tell him sarutobi tried to stop the genocide and stop the coup peacefully, and allow sasuke to think that the village all scorned the uchiha, thus giving him his rationalization that they were all guilty.
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