2017-10-07, 22:35 | Link #62 | |
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I think you'd have to play the game to follow the characters being introduced.
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2017-10-08, 00:20 | Link #66 | ||
今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている
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What do you want to say is edgy and emo next? HexenNacht's Mary because she wears black and uses a scythe? Bank robbers who disguise themselves by cross-dressing? Cross-dressers in general? Quote:
Yes, but 'edginess' implies something beyond that. Case in point, hellsing or black lagoon or everyone's favorite example, that black hedgehog from sonic
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2017-10-08, 08:21 | Link #69 | |
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But to be clear with you even when you're not willing to understand, I just used the most basic concept of edgy "Adjective. Taking coolness to its extreme and generally beyond the realm of actual possibility, while at the same time seemingly unaware of how ridiculous it is." In Dies case the devs probably designed these characters this way to make them look nice or cool but failed because it looks ridiculous and to be fair, maybe that's a problem of the anime adaptation. Alucard is edgy? yes but it fits the theme of the series in a way that doesn't really look ridiculous because it was well executed while Dies is nothing but mediocre (speaking about the first episode). In Hexennacht if we talk about Mary sue, it fits her character too but sadly the way how she went from that type of dark and vengeful character to one that was almost reaching the point of being a simple jobber wasn't the best desition from Kawakami, but that's another problem not related to her design or personality. Again, I know you're eager to defend this and you probably going to refuse to understand my point but whatever, when it comes to hardcore fans I know trying to discuss something is not the best choice. |
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2017-10-08, 10:20 | Link #70 |
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I think understood the general gist of first episode, but it was executed in a pretty poor way. Maybe a one hour special might have helped, but looking at the overall production of the first episode the staff may not have had the budget or time for that. Since technically the story hasn't' started yet, it's kind of hard judge much of anything right now.
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2017-10-08, 13:04 | Link #71 | |
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First, the definition if edgy you choose to use imply there is a lack of self awareness on the writer's on what gas been written. But that definitely is not the case. Anyone has some remote knowledge on Masada's style knows he know very well he is doing. He is very conscious about his chuuni-ness and that he is doing it for the chuuni. And it is weird for you to say that Alucard fits it's own theme but DI does not. Remember, DI is a series about psycho chuuni doing psycho chuuni things. And you are saying when some totally over the top psycho chuuni thing is done, it does not fit the theme if the show? |
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2017-10-08, 13:30 | Link #72 | |
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Is almost like you're expecting people should know about this from the beginning without taking in consideration what the anime-only viewers can think about it. Last edited by AB079; 2017-10-08 at 14:39. |
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2017-10-08, 15:27 | Link #73 |
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That was a weird ep0 to introduce the LDO and reaffirm Reinhard's love for the world. I couldn't tell what they were going for tbh. Also red Anna not being a loli threw me off. I think it would have been ok if the animation wasn't so bad.
They skipped the part where Reinhard made everyone suicide in Germany. Nooo. What if they shorten or skip the chants. That was the only thing I want from this adaption. |
2017-10-10, 11:50 | Link #75 | ||
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The whole issue is that your definition of the term appears to differ from how its generally portrayed, which is "overly dark or brutal simply for the sake of it or attempts to be but fails at it." You think Alucard isn't ridiculous and that he's well executed, fair enough, it's a subjective opinion even if to me he's a walking parody at best (or not? I don't really know with Hellsing if it takes itself seriously) and at worst a plot device for introducing excessive violence without any good reason and minimal characterization (the definition of edge) However the scene you are talking about literally is someone in a white dress killing a sex partner and falling out a window before going to fight another guy in a rather bland manner. It's 4 actions at most. You want to put a label on something based on something so skimpy? Or in other words, Alucard isn't edge simply because he wears red and shit talks. He has actually done way more over his story to justify the term. And finally....I don't think Mary fits the definition for edge at all either. She's much too well fleshed out for that. So it may indeed be a difference in your interpretation but even then, the point about affixing a specific label based on a character's scenes where the character literally does nothing but screw someone, kill him, drop out of a window and grapple another guy all in an awkward manner with minimal exposition, still stands. Quote:
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2017-10-10, 13:38 | Link #76 | |
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The episode was good, the visuals in general were nice and even the fights weren't as bad as most people say. Also, many might disagree with me, but in my opinion the decision to start with Die Morgendämmerung was the right one, especially given the medium and time limit. That was a nice way to introduce the L.D.O. members, show a bit of their powers and provide some information on worldbuilding to those who are unfamiliar with the VN. Sure, the episode may seem confusing, but it only requires the audience to pay some attention. Have to say I liked the composition. It was nice to see them start with the final battle and then switch to the past, showing Reinhard who happened to have a strange dream. That hints at recurrence, and besides that was one of my favorite moments in the novel, so I'm glad they've used it. Despite being cut short, the prison scene was done perfectly, a pleasure to the eye. Some other scenes were changed, but I don't really mind, since they've kept all the important stuff and managed to convey the necessary feelings, at least, for me. I liked how the talk between Rusalka and Trifa hinted at their backstories. Reinhard's awakening scene was very powerful (Is it just me, or they've sligthly changed Letzte Bataillon?), Karl was awesome as always. Also, Eleonore atop the Brandenburg gate looked so badass. Still can't believe this is actually happening.
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2017-10-13, 02:29 | Link #77 | |
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After hearing from someone in other place that it's going to be Tsukihime 2.0, I decided to give this adaptation a look out of curiosity.
Okay, as someone who read the VN, from what I'm seeing, the episode feels more like a fanservice for the VN readers. I'll be honest here but the episode looks like a mess. Sure that we VN readers know what is exactly going on but this episode is not newcomer friendly (especially if they picked it in the anime season chart or just ride the bandwagon since it was "one of the most anticipated animes out there") so if some of the newcomers end up not understanding a thing and gave up due to this episode, I guess I can't really blame them on this one. Quote:
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2017-10-13, 13:51 | Link #78 |
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Well, episode 1 turned out to be better than the messy episode 0.
The school life setting, eerie song, etc. I'm really curious about that golden girl Ren kept having visions about. Not really impressed by the theme song. It just feels average. The other characters feels like they are just there right now. Still, this week's episode made me curious about rest of the series.
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