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View Poll Results: Guilty Crown - Episode 16 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 23 | 23.47% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 24 | 24.49% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 17 | 17.35% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 9 | 9.18% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 3.06% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 6 | 6.12% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 3 | 3.06% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 1.02% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 5 | 5.10% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 7 | 7.14% | |
Voters: 98. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-02-09, 23:41 | Link #61 |
Crazy Devout Fanboy
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Urgh.....so all that drama with Gai "dying" was a waste.....a lot of characters are going to look really dumb for their angst over his death.......some characters seriously need to stay dead....... >.>
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2012-02-09, 23:46 | Link #63 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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No I think it is Gai, but your post made me realize that it's true we don't know anything about his past before he washed up on the shore. Perhaps this sudden resurrection will shed some light on what his life was like before he met Mana and Shu. Maybe he was experimented on and has more to do with the virus and voids than we first thought.
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2012-02-09, 23:48 | Link #64 |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Hahaha...Can't believe that there are random girls actually starting to idolize King Shu. Well, it is a nice start, Shu.
The only thing that bothered me is Shu is still a pawn of bigger boys. When is Shu going to stop become a pawn? I am tired to see GHQ guys doing the "Just as planned" face every time they got a screen time. Now I wonder, how durable is Void weapon? It would be sucks if these weapons have glass durability. I don't know but I somewhat felt sorry for Souta and other F-classes. He don't even has a line in this episode, and got infected. |
2012-02-10, 00:44 | Link #68 | |
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I must say, I truly loved this episode.
First of all, I strongly support the time-skip approach being used here, as well as starting the episode off from Argo's perspective. That was a great way to emphasize just how much the situation has changed since just two or three episodes ago, and also to show how much Shu has changed compared to win he last saw Argo. I was worried that the execution of Shu's "tyrant turn" would be sloppy or overly character derailing, but I think that (so far) they've nailed it just about perfectly. The key, for me, is that Shu has to remain sympathetic, but at the same time he needs to have a real edge to him. I think that Guilty Crown is hitting the right balance there so far. He's a harsh tyrant, but with a softer side to him that he shows to a select few, and which reflects the guy he used to be. I love how Shu and Yahiro have turned the remaining student body into a well-oiled military-like machine. It keeps things intense and suspenseful, while not allowing the school setting to soften the overall atmosphere too much. Another thing I like is... Quote:
On a separate note, this anime is really starting to remind me of the book Lord of the Flies. Edit: If Gai is truly back alive, I'm going to point to my current avatar as extremely prophetic!
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2012-02-10, 00:56 | Link #69 | |
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2012-02-10, 01:01 | Link #70 |
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Maybe the Gai we saw this episode was just a clone or something? He was in a glowing pool in a laboratory. Logically there's no way that he could still be alive, since his body completely dissolved into diamond dust. If the next episode reveals that he's alive because his body reformed from a billion pieces of shattered cancerous crystal, my Suspension of Disbelief will commit bloody suicide.
On another note, wonder why Shoe's mom is assisting in the cordon; she seems to be wholly aware of her actions, perhaps the plan doesn't actually involve the massive deaths of the student body?
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2012-02-10, 01:09 | Link #71 | ||
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I'm jsut glad Shu hasn't fallen to the Caligula and Machievalli level like people previously predicted. He's still 'kind', just hardened and a 'touch' unstable. Quote:
If this ended up as a meme because of you, that'd be epic. And I was all, "come at me bros!" |
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2012-02-10, 01:32 | Link #72 |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Just when I thought the series finally got interesting, Guy came back.
Gai... Gai I so want to just toss salt on that guy and melt him to the next dimension, since apparently dying and going to the next life in the same world isn't enough to keep him dead. And when was there a "See eye to use Boyd" setting? Because I can think of moments where he clearly didn't look at the person's body, let alone their eyes. Anyways, Shuu... Shuu, Shuu... "I'll be King(?)!" --> "O... Oh... Maybe I was wrong..." --> "AHAHAHAHAHAHA" No, don't run away, you idiot. Stick with one idea at least for an episode, for once.
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2012-02-10, 02:56 | Link #73 |
Tsushima Masaki
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Hm, I just a little on the fence with this episode, but first I must say I really enjoyed it initially. But I will start out with saying I've never been one of those guys proclaiming "Looks like I'm dropping this show!" week after week; I'm one of those guys though that never really complained much about GC in the beginning: I liked the setup, derivative of certain other series or not, I've always liked Shu, socially awkward/low self-esteemed pussy, wishy-washy or not. I think I like Shu because I probably would have acted in a similar fashion under his initial circumstances. I mean, I found it refreshing that it took him several episodes for him to finally answer the call.
But I'm kind of disappointed that THE GAI has returned, cloned or not. This guy is such a cockroach it's not even funny. This really cheapens death in this series because now I'm like "hey they can always just reconstruct them." I'm sure he's going to be setup as the final boss for Shu (either to destroy him or to return him to his "good" self). What I did like about this episode was Inori is finally becoming interesting, if only by slowly turning into Mana, which is what seems to be happening. There have been two big hints that Inori is no longer just Inori (one of them could've been Shu hallucinating but the creepy "mitsuketa~" was a clear one). My theory is that there's another personality creeping into Inori, and not just Mana completely taking over. And man, I didn't think it was possible for me to feel sorry for Souta, but just look at him now. And all the other F Rankers, it was like watching the condemned work on all the suicide missions for just a little reprieve from their inevitable ends... hard to watch. Arisa... I don't really think she's dead, well, she very well may be, but the scene was so quick. It was like a summary execution with little fanfare, and for a pretty significant character that is pretty jarring (perhaps intentional?). On the other hand, it might have been that way to punctuate just how not_Inori Inori is now. Anyway, overall good episode, right now I'm just hoping it doesn't come crashing down like Code Geass did in both seasons when they were nearing the endgame. EDIT: Also nice to see that Shu is very much still Shu deep down inside (for now), but he's just managed to put on a convincing front. Must be that scarf, it's possessed.
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2012-02-10, 03:04 | Link #74 |
The Chaotic Dreamer
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Okay, for a while I've just been keeping up with Guilty Crown by reading through threads or around the net, but I'm finally all caught up (watched epis 7-16) and... well... just wow.
Shu and Inori went insta-asshole and Yahiro went... extra super-duper manipulative asshole? Not that I'm complaining; I'm enjoying where things are going currently. It's all very interesting. I really hope Mana doesn't resurface in some [major] way, though. Also, Gai? Please stay dead. I mean, really. PLEASE.
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2012-02-10, 03:21 | Link #75 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Lelouch-sama has only one type of character: that of a vengeful, wounded soul who has decided to sacrifice his all to get back at his god damn father. If there was any development, it would be how he included in his plan to settle everyone's problem with his death. Shu is an imperfect person at the start. He actually has more development than Lelouch-sama, who is almost perfect. Lelouch-sama's acts are all for the fruition of his ambition to get back at his father. Shu has none of that. If we are to compare Shu now to Lelouch-sama, Shu is who Lelouch-sama is before he met C.C. While Shu goes down to a darker road, Lelouch-sama is very consistent with his goals and even after acquiring the Geass.
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2012-02-10, 03:52 | Link #77 | |
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Could it be that Mana's DNA inside Inori is linked to Shu and getting more active as he uses more Void?
hmmn well I just hope they don't make us show something like Shu goes to take out Inori's void and out comes Mana out of Inori, that would be pretty you know..... =_= Though anything can happen as Shu just went "oh look, I can be evil if I want to" *attempts an evil laugh like Lelouch* Quote:
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2012-02-10, 04:13 | Link #78 |
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What a disaster. Obviously it was headed this way with the void ranking system nonsense, but they have succeeded in transforming Shuu into a truly detestable character. It is bad enough that he treats people as objects whose sole value is determined by some shady device, but he has also proven to be a terrible leader, and nearly kills Souta. As if determined to further demonstrate his lack of wisdom, he gives the delinquents free rein with their own voids so that they can continue with their thuggery.
Rather than forging relationships based on trust and ability, he ignores those completely and defers to some numerical hierarchy enforced by fear. A number which doesn't even describe the usefulness of a void. After only a few days, the organization is already showing signs of imminent collapse. Yet somehow, people hail Shuu as the second coming of Gai, and trumpet his his virtues and brilliant character development, which outshines even that of LeLouche. The reactions that fill this thread leave me feeling like I have stepped into some alternate reality where sense no longer exists. I am utterly baffled that anyone can look upon the last two episodes as an improvement in either Shuu's character or the series overall. |
2012-02-10, 04:46 | Link #80 |
Me, An Intellectual
Join Date: Apr 2009
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I thought it was silly for Shu to so easily accept that dogma, but you know when Tsugumi gave her commentary at the end of the first half, I thought it was a fairly decent insight if you replaced the word "voids" with "guns". In reality a lot of armed resistances will have leaders that are either uncaring, incompetent or are part of the corruption in the system.
Anyway the lie was quickly proven wrong at the expense of a character designed specifically to for that purpose (really have to feel sorry for the poor mooks in this show) and Shuzaku finally got an evil laugh. Surprised that Arisa was killed off. It looks like everyone's favorite yandere has returned as well as Gai (hate the pointless Christian symbols though).
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