2023-09-30, 07:47 | Link #61 |
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I spotted the running gag from the manga, based on Frieren's inability to avoid Mimics due to her passion for grimoires and spells, where she occasionally ends up half-consumed by piles of books or stuck head-first in a bush.
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2023-09-30, 07:51 | Link #62 |
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I just realised that this series is reminding me of Yokohama Kaidishi Kikou which is also about an immortal being watching the world change around her. The YKK OAVs had Choro Club writing and performing the music that filled in a lot of the silent dialogue-free interludes.
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2023-09-30, 08:01 | Link #63 | |
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2023-09-30, 08:27 | Link #64 |
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Location: Kyoto, Japan
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I thought of YKK too, but there aren't many writers that can pull off what Ashinano does. He's a top .1% mangaka. I do worry this could slide down the "healing" rabbit hole and turn into a bit of a snooze, which YKK emphatically never did.
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2023-09-30, 13:32 | Link #66 |
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Did Frieren borrow that suitcase from Violet Evergarden?
How come Himmel shrank so much in height because he aged? I'm maybe an inch or two shorter at 73 than I was at 25, but elderly Himmel lost a good foot or two. After reading the reviews I expected to be more blown away by this series. It's good, but not amazing.
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2023-09-30, 14:00 | Link #67 | |
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Its strength is in a slower execution to go with its central theme, a very strong sense of continuity aided by a generally soft magic system, competent but not overly detailed art so there's few swings in quality. Don't set your expectations to stratospheric because people hail it as a complete masterpiece. It's Good, and that's okay. |
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2023-09-30, 20:01 | Link #70 |
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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I think this series has expectation because it's an actual fantasy series. Not the modern isekai version which is utterly escapist, fulfilling power fantasies and embracing Truck-kun. Frieren pretty much forces you to confront inevitabilities and make the most of what you have while you can. And embracing making actual meaningful relationships. I didn't go into this thinking this would be a generational title. I just wanted things to actually matter for once in this setting/genre. And they are. I'll let it go what it wants to go.
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2023-09-30, 23:37 | Link #71 |
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Quite a few fantasy shows focus on the adventures of the Hero and his party as they quest to take down the Demon King...but this one is set immediately afterwards, and chronicles not only the aftermath but the life after the end of such a journey for one elven mage, Frieren .
Madhouse really nailed it on the animation and direction level, and Evan Call also delivered on the music . Honestly Yoasobi would not have been my first choice for the OP of this show, but compared to her usual music this feels at least like she tried something new even if it's not what I would have expected. More subdued, more melancholic. The visuals also really help sell it . Atsumi Tanezaki knows how to voice cool or stoic beauties and Frieren is no exception, it also just makes the moments when she does get emotional (like Himmel's funeral) more poignant. Time for her flows very differently than for humans, or even compared to dwarves despite her relating to Eisen in that respect, to the point where she treated their 10 year journey as just a a simple adventure...yet realizing she cared about Himmel and wasted time she could've spent getting to know her makes her finally put things into perspective and sets off her core emotional arc . I didn't expect Nobuhiko Okamoto as Himmel, let alone Old Man Himmel, but he did a great job here. Himmel the Hero may have had a high opinion of himself and quite the ego, but his heroism was sincere and that carried over to his party trying to pay his kindness back in their own way . Heiter you corrupt priest! Pulled a perfect fast one on Frieren to get her to take in Fern! Should've expected as much from a guy who proudly bares it all even in old age . Kana Ichinose as a purple-haired cutie! Fern is so likeable and surprisingly emotive despite how serious and mature she acts (also mature in the chest area, sorry Frieren). Her commitment to becoming proficient in magic for Heiter's sake after he took her in was so touching, as was when she spied on Frieren and realized she was shopping for a birthday gift. Also I thought it was neat how we saw the progression of her hair in the time montages . I feel like Himmel was definitely very attached to Frieren. Compared to the rest of the party she seemed to be the one he most wanted to get through to or make her feel the moment they had together. I don't feel like he would've wanted to show the flowers of his homeland or put a flower crown on just anyone. Well, that and he straight up admitted he wanted to look up her skirt . The only thing you can count on is Frieren getting caught in something or Fern's pouts being the cutest . Don't you just hate it when you're a super powerful member of the Demon Lord's army and then get sealed up only to re-awaken and find out your signature magic has been studied and adapted to modern human magecraft in the time you've been asleep? Admittedly Qual acclimated well but he still got destroyed by his own spell courtesy of Frieren. Ouch . You can definitely tell Frieren is trying to be more emotionally in-tune with Fern and appreciate the time they have together, and Fern appreciates the companionship...if not also having to basically take care of Frieren because she's so sloppy . Oh hey, Atsuko Tanaka as Flamme, Frieren's legendary master ! So now Frieren is on another 10-year quest basically retracing her steps with Himmel and co., all so she can see Himmel again. I can't help but think about how Fern is going to look in 10 years . The ED is an absolutely beautiful and stunning theme from Milet! Especially with the creative animation .
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2023-10-01, 00:42 | Link #73 | |
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2023-10-01, 02:24 | Link #75 |
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It seems the anime team really pays respect to Quvale and made him even better.
I highly approve of this decision. Oh and it seems the audience here is overtly focused on the passage of time theme of the story. But the culture of magic is another important theme of this title, as well as the habitat of the demons. |
2023-10-01, 03:48 | Link #77 |
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It's only been 4 episodes. We've only just been able to see Frieren and Fern have a more balanced dynamic, an end goal established and barely started to move beyond the time factor. The third and fourth episodes gave the first glimpses of magic culture and we haven't delved into demon habitat yet. Which is fine - seeing Frieren develop into a more nuanced and likeable person who isn't too weighed down by regret has been more important so far.
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2023-10-01, 04:18 | Link #78 | |
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It was important to show the lasting impression Himmel left on her character, but the main story is about what happens after he's already passed away. If the episodes were split normally, anyone who isn't familiar with the source material would have assumed that Himmel would be here to stay. |
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