2011-12-20, 22:49 | Link #62 | |
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They show a scene in the trailer of a conversation between Thorin and Gandalf in Bilbo's house before everyone has set off. This is not in the The Hobbit per se, but was written up by Tolkien elsewhere and published in ... erm ... I think "The Book of Lost Tales Vol. 2"? So if nothing else the movie will incorporate that material in the narrative. Of course, we do not know if that footage will be in the theatre release version. The Lord of the Rings trilogy had something like 3 different versions of the trilogy that were put up for sale, each having a little more content than previous versions. Maybe that scene with that conversation bewteen Gandalf and Thorin will only show up in later releases?
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2011-12-20, 22:59 | Link #63 | |
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2011-12-20, 23:11 | Link #64 | |
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The wiki page for the Hobbit movie has quite a bit of info already, and reading a little "between the lines" on the page can give some further hints. For example there is an actor for Radagast the Brown - Gandalf only recounted his meeting with Radagast in The Hobbit iirc, but the movie will show it. Stuff like that. I am sure there are lots of things which could be dug up on even a cursory reading.
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2011-12-20, 23:21 | Link #65 | |
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What the Dwarves were singing,
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Spoiler for you're right:
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2011-12-20, 23:30 | Link #68 | |
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Either way, I'm not sure I can wait an entire YEAR to see this!
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2011-12-20, 23:34 | Link #69 | |
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Sigh. I guarantee younger me would've known that. But it's been forever since I've been "in" Middle-earth, and I'm ashamed to say I didn't recognize the song when I heard it.
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You are correct about the Dwarven song portion being shown referring to the time when Smaug settled on Erebor for the first time....
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2011-12-20, 23:49 | Link #71 | |
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I wonder how they'll handle the Great Goblin? Being plucked out of the trees by the Great Eagles with wargs nipping at their heels? The Battle of Five Armies? The Rush, Bard and the Black Arrow? I need to read this book again, soon!
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2011-12-20, 23:54 | Link #72 |
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The wiki page shows that there is an actor for Thorin's father Thrain. In The Hobbit and the stories around that time the only time Thrain pops up is when Gandalf unexpectedly finds him imprisoned in the dungeons of the Necromancer before the narrative of the Hobbit starts up. Without going down all those rabbit holes atm, I would not be surprised if some of the trailer footage showing Gandlaf walking around in the dark with a lighted staff might be showing him searching and finding Thrain - perhaps in a flashback associated with when he hands over the map to Thorin at Bag End?
If so that would be another scene shown that was not shown in the book.
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2011-12-20, 23:57 | Link #73 |
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Well recall that The Hobbit was a children's novel. But if you add in all the things that surrounded it in relation to what would happen in the Lord of the Rings...it becomes something much different, yet has the same story.
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2011-12-21, 00:01 | Link #74 | |
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The narrative style was intended more for children, to be sure. But in actuality the events going on were inextricably tied into the trilogy, and there were many moments equally as dark that were detailed some by JRRT elsewhere. Point being - I think Jackson will do a fine job in making this production very much "part of the same beast" as his work in the trilogy by bringing out those unmentioned darker background material and elements.
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2011-12-21, 01:13 | Link #76 |
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It is well known that the original Hobbit was re-written to incorporate elements that was introduced in LotR. This was essentially what the intro conversation of the trailer was telling us. So it is not unusual that Peter Jackson gets to do the same with the film version.
The Hobbit was not meant to be an Epic when it was conceived. But it IS now.
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2011-12-21, 09:34 | Link #77 |
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Though Tolkien had been tinkering with his legendarium before even The Hobbit. The origins of The Silmarillion can be traced almost 15-20 years earlier. I'm all for them adding whatever little extra bits from The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales. Perhaps maybe some backstory onto Durin's Folk. I am also eager to see Thranduil and Bard on the big screen.
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Watched the trailer. Loved. Every. Single. Seconds. Of It.
God I hope he delivers again, and have set his eyes on the story of Tùrin Turambar.
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2011-12-21, 12:49 | Link #80 |
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Some of my favorite movies are downers.
So I won't even have a problem with that if a competent director like Jackson picked it up.
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