2020-03-13, 22:54 | Link #61 |
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I suspect it was nationalism or greed that caused the US to reject the initial Chinese/German developed WHO kits.
And that caused a delay in response. edit: HR6201 It includes free corona virus testing paid 2 week sick leave food assistance it goes to the Senate now. We'll see if Americans and their politicians care more about slowing the infection rate or is just content with blaming China for everything. //
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2020-03-14, 01:13 | Link #62 | |
今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている
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However that is still a very different thing from claiming this is a human engineered bioweapon or other baseless claims that inevitably follow whenever anyone says it's a lab leak. You realize that this is at the core, a technical issue of medical science yes? Accuracy is important when it comes to such things. Political nonsense from all nations have screwed enough people already and the most nonsensical are these conspiracy theories which help no one
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2020-03-14, 01:19 | Link #63 |
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Wait, there are really people that believe this is some Chinese-made virus from a lab leak or whatever?
Is this the part where they also say that the Democrats are working with the Chinese to harm the Naz... I mean, Trump party?
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2020-03-14, 01:34 | Link #64 | |
今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている
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I still cannot fathom why after 17 years since the first SARS epidemic, the CCP who cracks down on everything that offends them, from religion to pop culture, cannot crack down successfully on their people eating things that obviously should not go in the mouth. It's not even an ingrained part of Chinese culture FFS, just some weird 19-20th century fad
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2020-03-14, 05:37 | Link #66 |
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I just didn't like China's response since they didn't step in when Public Security warned the whistleblower not to say anything in Wuhan last December.
AFAIK for the MM community lockdown (DDS supporters will insist on this term, not me), life goes on until 8 PM. But I'm hearing contradicting news that there's no curfew. Then WTF were people showing off in FB of photos of Marines and Simba APCs moving in? My dad's a critic of the supposed quarantine too. Mom's resting due to a bad stomach and we're figuring out on the groceries in the next few weeks. When I think about it, I don't know if I should be lucky that my older two bros are in Canada/US and I'm stuck here without a paying job.
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2020-03-14, 07:20 | Link #68 | |
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How the AFP will handle manning the checkpoints in Metro Manila with the PNP. ---- Quote:
I'll have to look for it.
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2020-03-14, 10:23 | Link #69 | |
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If you don't want to shoulder the blame, just pin it on someone else. EDIT: for the record, it was a foreign affairs spokesperson, Zhao Lijian, who publicly insinuated that the coronavirus must have come from one of the 300 US Army athletes who participated in Wuhan's 7th Military World Games, in October 2019.
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2020-03-14, 11:52 | Link #70 | |
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That said a bioweapon that doesn't kill but scares a populace is just as powerful if not more than one that kills, a scared people is a people that is easily controlled. I don't think that's the case but I would not be surprised if some politicians and leaders take advantage of this situation for their own good |
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2020-03-14, 11:54 | Link #71 | |
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If China has nothing to hide, why not let the international community verify. And people probably don't know many scientists have China's money in their pockets. It's not that China is afraid of losing face or fear that the international community sees them through. China's worst fear is the revolt from their own people. And I admit they have done a great job brainwashing the people hate the US. They're in complete control, psychologically and physically. For those who are currently cursing the US for being big brother, you eventually will find out how it is like when China is big brother after the US falls. There is a lot of hysteria on social media/ media about the virus. I see drama on there then get on another normal day in real life. The contrast is interesting. The drive across state line is smooth because there was no traffic. Some people at Asian supermarkets are wearing masks. I have some masks from way back when but I'm not even using it yet. There's a stigma. |
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2020-03-14, 12:36 | Link #72 | |
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The silver lining in all this is that any research on bioweapons (be it virus or bacterias) should be halted after this, since it is clear for anyone to see that this is the kind of weapon that has a boomerang effect, no one is safe. What worries me the most is the possibility of further mutations, atm covid-19 has two strains, but it could return next autumn (which is what happened during the spanish flu pandemia a century ago) with a new strain for the which any immunity already in place i people that survived does not affects it. |
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2020-03-14, 13:30 | Link #74 |
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Kim Iversen, a young journalist that I follow closely has release a "conspiracy theory" video on how possible it would be for this virus to actually be a biological weapon. I originally laughed at the notion, but when I finished watching it I ended up with some questions. I would like us to entertain the idea for a moment; but first here is the video:
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2020-03-14, 13:33 | Link #75 |
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I always think it's funny when random people behind a keyboard think they know more than internationally renowned scientists (and I'm not talking about Chinese ones) who insist that there is no evidence that SARS-CoV2 has been tampered with. But just keep your tinfoil hat of "Chinese-engineered bio weapon".
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2020-03-14, 14:49 | Link #77 | |
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She also cites some virologist that viruses were researched in Wuhan and thus the possibility exists that they could have manufactured the spread of covid-19 (among others). However she shows zero evidence to prove that claim thus it is pure speculation. "The possibility exists therefore it has to be true!". Just stop. Here is some very basic advice: Listen to reputable scientists only. |
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2020-03-14, 15:24 | Link #78 |
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BY Occam Razor, it is a lot more feasible that Israel acquired the virus from samples in Australia or other country where the virus spread to and then proceed to infect people returning to Iran than having the covid-19 being artificially manufactured by any country.
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2020-03-14, 16:18 | Link #79 |
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The problem with using a biological weapon like this is it's very unpredictable and can backfire you badly.
No one will want to use something like this, unless they are very, very desperate. But not even North Korea is that desperate.
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2020-03-14, 16:36 | Link #80 |
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Let's assume that yes, it was made in a lab and escaped.
Your government is still accountable in regards to how it handles the outbreak. Right now there's 2 models that work according . The South Korean free government paid testing or China's enforced lockdown model. So do something about it instead of just crying "boo hoo China" And get Trump checked already. He's probably a vector considering the infections surrounding him. edit: AOC claims that the original version of HR6201 covered sick paid leave for all, while the GOP edited version could potentially only cover businesses with under 50 employees. source: https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1238903193641324545 FFS, America. //
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