(L+CR) Classroom Crisis

[Arya]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Honestly rather than Valvrave or Argenvolen it looks to me more like Amagami Brilliant Park, but where protagonist trying sink department rather than save.

I agree. Or at least that's what it looks like so far.

I was on the fence the whole episode because the teacher wasn't exactly my kind of character. The transfer student settled it for the better.
I was also due to maruto and his last adaptation that I didn't like much, but with this last minute bait and switch I don't know if it is for the better or not. sure it sounds pretty odd, considering the writer. So I don't buy it yet.

In any case for now I'm siding with the new transfer boy. If anything because I didn't like the space ship at all and the whole department had a silly feeling surrounding it that somehow justify his goal.

[goblehook]

This series feels like Mouretsu Pirates.

[bakato]

A model student council president Mizuki is. Breaking the ice so easily with our jaded transfer student.

[Stark700]

I have to say, Nagisa has quite an interesting personality. Another slow episode but I like the overall buildup. His reputation also seems to be quite elite too in the story..

[DragoonKain3]

Ok, not gonna lie, I thought episode 1 definitely disappointed me. I guess Maruto is good with relationship writing, but I was disappointed by the sci fi elements. I dunno, with it not using mechas, I thought this will be in the 'hard' sci-fi category. Then they talk about 'max speed' of a craft in space AND having an asteroid field to traverse to? Bah, I could only groan. Only thing that caught my interest was Kiryu's "Why are YOU here?", which could imply that he knew Iris from before. (and lo and behold, Mizuki noticed this in eps 2 as well... damn, I love you Maruto! lol)

Oh well, episode 2 definitely was 100x better, since it strayed away from sci-fi and more into the politics in the corporation. The whole Kiryu vs Sera (and A-tec) and the Kiryu vs Onii-chan was definitely intriguing, not to mention that the character introductions were expertly woven into the story by way of documentary PR.

This show is kinda like an opposite Charlotte. In that show, the writing is damn terrible, but it's carried by the characters and the premise. In here, the 'world' is a mess and the characters underdeveloped due to the sheer size of the cast, but the way the interactions are presented is almost enough for me to forget about the negatives I felt from episode 1.

Still a contender for 'anime of the cour', depends on what they decide to focus on. But considering the next episode is 'that woman from accounting' (another possible childhood friend for Kiryu again? I wouldn't be surprised from Maruto ), I think they are focusing on the strengths of Maruto's writing.

[Kazu-kun]

These writers have no shame. They basically did the whole world building through exposition.

If anyone needs an example of bad writing, look no further.

[IceHism]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

These writers have no shame. They basically did the whole world building through exposition.

If anyone needs an example of bad writing, look no further.

That's not bad writing. You can't have a story without telling
Not to mention, the fact that they did it all in two episodes means that it's obviously not very important in the long run

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by IceHism

That's not bad writing. You can't have a story without telling

Tthe problem is how much they told. Too much. A lot of that could have been better delivered through the story properly.

Not to mention, the fact that they did it all in two episodes means that it's obviously not very important in the long run

It's world building. That's alway important even if not directly.

Almost half the episode was exposition. That's just being lazy.

[RDNexus]

If it's to be only 1cour, they may be reserving that time for something else... Maybe something better

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by xrick

If it's to be only 1cour, they may be reserving that time for something else... Maybe something better

Proper world building doesn't take that much screen time. Most of it happens in the background of proper situations and dialog. I bet most of what was said in this episode will be reintroduced again later on as the plot gets rolling.

Take what they said about the SWNPR races, for example. If it's relevant, a race will be part of the story at some point, so there's no need to mention it now. If it's not relevant, there's no need to mention it at all.

So in the end this dull exposition is mostly just a waste of time either way.

[Triple_R]

They probably overdid the exposition some in Episode 2, but I found Episode 2 effective overall. Though a lot depends on how the show goes from here.

My impression is that they wanted to get a lot of exposition and important background details out of the way in the first two episodes. I can roll with that if it means what's to come is more worthwhile because of it. If it means that future character drama can be more precise and pinpointed on the here and now, with less perfunctory explanatory dialogue on the parts of the characters. If it means that character dialogue is smoother and more realistic-seeming.

It's still not ideal. Kazu-kun probably has the right idea of the ideal way to go about this. But there can be some benefits to getting this all out of the way early on. We'll see if those potential benefits are realized or not.


In any event, I like this setting and the overall situation well enough. The key characters are maybe a bit too strong, but that's better than underwhelming anyway. The various character conflicts have all the subtlety of an acme anvil. Still, this sort of approach can work if they stick to it and make some good, clear choices. We'll see if that happens or not.

[IceHism]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Tthe problem is how much they told. Too much. A lot of that could have been better delivered through the story properly.


It's world building. That's alway important even if not directly.

Almost half the episode was exposition. That's just being lazy.

I don't see how it is relevant that we learn the history of A-TEC and how they do what they do. The only detail that i would considering taking from the whole "TV Special Program"(Since it was presented through the TV) is that they proved themselves by winning first place in the race. They're not going to introduce again that all they do is improve SUVPR(?) engines and build racing ships or how they became an industry forerunner.

If this is about conspiracies like what other people speculate, it probably won't be the race that is very important but what is happening in the background.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by IceHism

I don't see how it is relevant that we learn the history of A-TEC and how they do what they do.

If it's not relevant at all, they shouldn't waste half an episode in it.

If this is about conspiracies like what other people speculate, it probably won't be the race that is very important but what is happening in the background.

If there is a race, even if only as a backdrop for some corporate scheme, whatever relevant info about the race itself and A-TEC's involvement with it could be given at that moment in a more natural fashion. No need to infodump the details beforehand.

[Marcus H.]

I don't see how it is relevant that we learn the history of A-TEC and how they do what they do. The only detail that i would considering taking from the whole "TV Special Program"(Since it was presented through the TV) is that they proved themselves by winning first place in the race. They're not going to introduce again that all they do is improve SUVPR(?) engines and build racing ships or how they became an industry forerunner.

It is very relevant, really. It shows that A-TEC, for a "class of weirdos", has a rich history that can be considered as the reason why Kirishina even got to what they are at the moment. However, Kirishina itself has considered that A-TEC has overstayed its welcome, and has to be "trimmed down" so that the conglomerate could function with greater efficiency...

...At least that's the idea. What's intriguing is that A-TEC is already developing a new kind of space vehicle, which you wouldn't call stagnation in any way whatsoever. The elder Kiryu might have his own plan of overtaking A-TEC's innovations, and is using every means to take away the competition.

I wonder why the elder Kiryu feels this way, considering that a Kiryu was half of the leading team that sparked Kirishina's progress.

EDIT: It seems that Nagisa is planning a very grand keikaku against his brother by using A-TEC. A-TEC loses and it's liquidated without any regrets, A-TEC wins and he ones-up his brother and gets another medal to his achievements. (TL: Keikaku means plan.)

[Yamada II]

Episode 2

This was okay. Nagisa is a success in whatever he does and now he's disbanding A-tec. His chances of success are high but the sensei doesn't want to give up.

This was a rather boring episode with the last part being a bit interesting.

Oh well, if nothing comes out good from this, at least there's ClariS. That's all we need. Also, Mizuki is getting a bit less cute the more I see her especially with that gigantic smile of hers. Her ponytail version is still the best though.

[Alf]

Is it just me? I feel a whole lot of irony during that PR program. Rather than downsize, they're in a crisis of getting disassembled. Yet, the program is showing full of hope. Perhaps it is not apparent enough due to execution, but I really don't feel bored at all.

Corporate politics has taken front stage this time, but I do find there's a potential rom-com structure to it. Nagisa seems to know Iris before and treated her a little bit differently, while Mizuki is having some interesting interaction with Nagisa, and the two girls are very close friends - sounds familiar? So perhaps the bait and switch isn't really a bait.

[Kazu-kun]

^ Having some romance doesn't make a series a rom-com. Romantic comedy is a very specific genre that focus on romantic-based comedy (and some drama).

Not that I disagree there could be some romance here, and even some love triangle stuff. But it obviously won't be the focus.

[SuitUp]

So he's a fixer, that much was clear since his introduction and even more now with his work history, and anouncing his intentions of taking over as CEO when it has been made clear he's not mentioned on the organigram and when it's also made clear that the class had never heard of a third brother.. Well, it seems pretty obvious the fixer has had enough of his brother's bs and plans to use A-Tec to take him down..
Also, it's also pretty obvious something bad (and deliberate) happened to that other founder the teacher finds inspiration from.. Most likely he was sold out by his business partner...

[ChampDream]

I'm going to enjoy this Sera vs Nagisa, they are the only character so far that I like.
That was a long exposition, hope their done with it, didn't like it that much.

[Tranhieu]

I much prefer this episode to the previous one. Maruto is obviously better at writing character interactions and developments. The sci-fi part is again, left me scratching my head whenever it showed up

My take is Nagisa is planning to use A-TEC as a means to overthrow his brother by using the old, usual trope of setting up a common enemy to make the whole class work together (Sera sensei included) and push themselves forward.

The relationship between Iris and Nagisa (and Mizuki) is interesting as well, it reeks of Maruto