2008-12-13, 08:14 | Link #61 |
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It's a decent watch if you remove the final ep, though.
I won't rule out this show yet. From the first look you can tell pretty easily that this one will contain lot of fanservice in the shapes of girl and mecha, so why not lower our standard a little and enjoy it?
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2008-12-14, 10:08 | Link #64 | |
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I just knew you were going to reply to that. Sure Mai-HiME is mainstream. I don't think it's crap and the Sunrise series I regard as crap I have watched to the bitter end, so I feel quite entitled to call them whatever I damn like. If that will make you happy, I think KyoAni is over worse offender in the mainstream category and that's without ever watching one of their series to the end except for Fumoffu. Now, that's opinion I would expect to be called upon for good reason. I didn't say mainstream=crap, it's just that that all of Sunrise's popular (read mainstream)series in the last years that I have watched were rather terrible in my opinion. Not simply because they were popular as you seem to be implying.
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2008-12-14, 13:14 | Link #65 | |
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2008-12-14, 14:14 | Link #66 |
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Mainstream - belonging to or characteristic of a principal, dominant, or widely accepted group, movement, style, etc.. You aren't going to argue that Gundam SEED Destiny or Code geass is not mainstream (among anime series, not TV shows in generla, of course), are you?
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2008-12-14, 16:33 | Link #67 | |
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As for this one, except for lolis and fun-service, which are certain, whether it is worth your time, you'll have to watch it first and certainly not judge from the studio's recent works. |
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2008-12-15, 01:51 | Link #69 | |
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Didn't you know that them being hated on by AS and the blogging world made them underground? |
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2008-12-16, 00:51 | Link #70 | |
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Groupthinkers....no...cultures who rarely have anything to add to a conversation that isn't just an assorted collection of the latest internet memes are no better, no more desirable to me, then the hipsters you can find at your local mall buying into every new corporately manufactured trend without regard for how little it's actually going to change who they are or their actual self worth. So stop importing that culture please. And yes it is a culture like any other, no matter how much they think the anonymous thing gives them a sense of individuality. Alas, sometimes I have to be harsh in making a point, yet I will say this, it's very much possible to run againt the mainstream without having to resort to adopting the beliefs of a counter-culture whose tendencies are just as predictable and braindraining as your average popular cultures. Culture, counter-culture, mainstream, it's all the same to me, you're still sacrificing your independent thought in order to fit in with a crowd and it's still herd behaviour, whether you are the type that professes to like only Shounen, Mecha, Fantasy and explosions, or the type that only likes Slice of Life, Romance and "Realism". So in the end why, why not just be oneself with their own set of self-coined terms, expectations in life and beliefs and ideas to call ones own? That's the philosophy I subscribe too, right down to when I refuse to select from a choice of pre-specified classes in Oblivion and choose to create my own custom class. That was what I was planning on getting to with my question, and I hope we're all on the same page now. So if people don't mind, I will choose to subscribe to those immortal words of Fleetwood Mac and go my own way, even if I have to call it another lonely day. One month to the debut of this series, and then we can all judge it, not before. Deal? Last edited by Kaioshin Sama; 2008-12-16 at 01:41. |
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2008-12-16, 07:36 | Link #71 | |
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So you claim you don't give a crap yet whenever someone says anything bad about Sunrise you are always there to refute them? How does that work?
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Seriously, call me crazy but I still think most people who bitch about some movie or book or game do it because they quite frankly didn't like it. Not because it's cool or their peers told them to do so. And of course who bitch over the internet are a very small percentage of the number who would bitch if they had to give an opinion but just don't want to waste their time that way. Or think forums and blogs are inventions of the devil.
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2008-12-16, 17:16 | Link #72 | |
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2008-12-16, 17:57 | Link #73 |
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Sorry for the smilies overload.
Oh, well, if you want to believe that people dislike Gundam SEED Destiny et al just because it is hip to do so, please do. Just don't claim this conjecture is an axiom, please. P.S. Giving me negative reputation for my initial post did give me a good laugh, though. Should I feel obliged to do the same if you happen to have a negative opinion about a studio that I like?
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2008-12-16, 19:05 | Link #74 | |
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2008-12-16, 22:08 | Link #75 |
A Proud Lolicon
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Sometimes I wonder why did AS hides the people's name who give reputation to other. I believe there are several times someone just try to add fuel into the flame by pretending to be the one who have different opinion from me and neg rep me.
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2008-12-16, 22:14 | Link #76 | |
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Then there was a case of a bunch of Ranka fans getting anon neg rep just for saying they're Ranka fans. Anyway its amazing how much criticism a show can get before airing. Any mecha show is an instant win for SRW fans, from Sunrise means it has decent chance of getting into SRW. And if it gets into SRW, it will be fixed no matter how bad it can get.
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2008-12-17, 00:00 | Link #78 | |
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It's kind of the same deal with what happened with Kyoani where they stepped back from the direction they were headed in towards really making something of themselves in terms of series with variety in themes in order to cater to the moe market and release Key adapation after Otaku pandering Kadokawa adaptation. Sora Kake Girl looks like the same thing at first glance. A moe oriented otaku pander with good looking character designs, but nothing that indicates any sort of substance from what we've seen so far of the trailers and Newtype features. And this following up on the success of Code Geass and other recent properties of theirs......it catches one off guard and makes one more than a little unsure of what to expect. Like it's an attempt to coast or something. In a rare case of seeing eye to eye with the companie's critics (mostly because what they are saying actually makes sense within the context of logic and reality for a change) I actually have to agree a little, from what we've seen (so far) the show looks like the type to be watched for the fancy animation and moe girls and not for any sort of depth of character or plot. We could be proven wrong of course, but there's really been nothing to give us any reason to believe it's going to be a heavy hitter or a standout. How unfortunate. I've asked this question and the reason I've been given is that it's to prevent negative rep wars from springing up. |
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2008-12-17, 04:16 | Link #79 |
Shitpost Gremlin
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost
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About mainstream, indie, counter-culture, whatever, Sunrise is about as mainstream as any can get. Thinking otherwise because of the bad publicity it gets in a part of the blogsphere is just plain ridiculous.
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2008-12-17, 05:16 | Link #80 | |
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Really I don't know how anyone can convince themselves R2 is hated on the internet when it constantly got mostly 10's even for average episodes and is top ten on ratings databases for ANN, MAL and anidb but hey people can convince themselves of anything. |
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