2012-11-02, 13:59 | Link #781 | |
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I was surprised when I saw the names of the Team D-First Year, the six of them had names of the Nadeshiko Japan footbal team (women's national team) FIFA World Champions in 2011 and silver medal in London 2012. They are: Homare SAWA: Number 10 central midfielder, captain of the team. Best player of the world 2011. Nozomi YAMAGO: Number 1 reserve goalkeeper. Karina MARUYAMA: Number 18 reserve forward, she scored the legendary goal against Germany in extra time. Mizuho SAKAGUCHI: Number 6 central midfielder. Rumi UTSUGI: Number 13 reserve central midfielder. Shinobu OHNO: Number 11 forward (but in the world cup she played as right midfielder) |
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2012-11-02, 14:44 | Link #782 | |||||||
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There are almost no "Nippon Banzai!" moments - the most identifiably Japanese element in the show is the Type 89, and the show itself thinks that it's junk. Even though all the "foreign" students are actually Japanese, they've been treated respectfully so far. And the most nationalistic element in the show has been "Battlehymn of the Republic". Even the streak of Nazi fetishism I expected to find has been largely restrained. In comparison, a show like Strike Witches seems to hit a lot more wrong notes. Quote:
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I can sort of agree when it comes to Germany, but Japan in World War II is almost the text-book example of "dysfunctional". There were even soldiers in the IJA who started wars against major powers without asking the government for permission! Quote:
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2012-11-02, 15:53 | Link #784 | |
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I'm not very knowledgeable about details of the Pacific War, so thanks for the info. I've long thought that both Germany and Japan were defeated as much by disparities in raw material supplies as anything else. Is this true?
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2012-11-02, 16:17 | Link #785 | ||
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Col. Hessler: Do you know what this is? Subordinate: Its a chocolate cake, sir. Col. Hessler: A chocolate cake! Subordinate: Yes sir? Col. Hessler: They have the fuel and planes to fly Cake over the Atlantic Ocean! Subordinate: ... Col. Hessler: Do you know what this means? - - - - - Aside from obvious lack of materials, the Japanese military, as 4tran mentioned, was as dysfunctional as it could be. The Imperial Japanese Army was pretty much a glorified version of the Shogunate. Even though the Meiji restoration allegedly restored political power on the Japanese Emperor, a power he had lost since the 10th century, it was, in reality, the army who dominated much of foreign, domestic and military affairs. The Army appointed prime ministers, influenced foreign policies and attacked countries they weren't permitted to attack. Before long, they were involved in a number of theaters, without the proper war industry to back it up. Admiral Yamamoto was a severe critic of the army, but due to protocol, he chose to follow orders, eventually leading to the attack on Pearl Harbor. Quote:
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2012-11-02, 16:44 | Link #786 |
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That shop at the location where Team A got trapped by St. Gloriana and that shop where that Matilda crashed have GuP posters even. And this link has more comparison pics, and even a route map of the path Team A took through the town from beginning to end.
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2012-11-02, 16:56 | Link #787 | ||
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In Japan, a lack of resources was sort of the reason they got into the whole mess to begin with. The main problem for them was that they were stuck in an unwinnable war with China, and this colored every major decision made by the Japanese military forces. The Chinese armies were weak and ill-equipped, but the country was simply too large to completely occupy. Japanese troops could control the cities, but the countryside was unceasingly hostile. The American, British and Dutch embargo placed on Japan in 1941 forced them to either give up the war in China or to seize those resources directly. The problem was that there was no way for Japan to fight and sustain the first war, and now they got into a war against a far stronger adversary. Japan didn't even have the shipping to transport the captured resources to begin with. The IJN was simply steamrollered by the USN, and no amount of resources would have helped them. Quote:
To be fair, there are a lot of anime that still go the caricature route.
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2012-11-02, 16:57 | Link #788 | |
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Personally, I've grown up with a deep suspicion of any nationalism, or militarism. I had to quit watching Uppotte because of that after only one episode. I hate-hate-hated Muv-Luv's episode one (never saw more) because of the military streak. I get none of that from Girls und Panzer. It's too tongue-in-cheek. |
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Oh geez, you must really hate Act of Valor, then
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But... it would appear Germany is indeed the most normal out of them all, and thats saying something. I mean, every single time I see Germany popping on screen, it would appear the only thing he wanted was a friggin' vacation. A time off without having to deal with bullshit. You know, I can identify with that... On the other hand, you have Motofumi Kobayashi, who is pretty much the premier mangaka when it comes to how awful wars could be, since most of his works involve the Eastern Front. Now, his works tend to make Hitler look stubborn and senile, but the focus is on individual German (and sometimes Finnish) soldiers. They can also be quite informative, for example... how to defrost frozen bread... Quote:
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2012-11-02, 17:30 | Link #790 | |
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2012-11-02, 18:53 | Link #792 | |
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2012-11-02, 19:12 | Link #793 | ||
is this so?
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With marching songs being used. Feels like this anime is giving a mild history lesson (in a nice way). Quote:
More impressed by Confederate millitary leaders than those of the Union in the civil war, but I guess a confederate marching song isn't something to be used to represent american tanks in G and P.
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2012-11-02, 19:20 | Link #794 | |
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Spoiler for Rommel and her crew:
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1. Facing three fronts : West, East and Italy 2. The mismanagement of handling Luftwaffe production. 3. No strategic aerial warfare. Ex. they did not developed 4 engine bomber to bomb Russia resources until 1943 its was too late. 4. Leadership. Ex. Goering fail to concentrate his forces against Fighter Command which led the Luftwaffe defeat in the Battle of Britain, Hitler took personnel command in the campaign in the East as a role tactician and change the plan diverting the Group Army Center toward South to create giant pincer envelopment. It was the biggest opportunity to capture Moscow which the Soviet reserve there have gone depleted. I believe the German lost bec. of human error rather than technological failure. Last edited by PzIVf3; 2012-11-02 at 20:10. |
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2012-11-02, 19:45 | Link #795 | |
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Hmm... so the girl with the closed eye is an archer.
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2012-11-02, 20:18 | Link #796 | |
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It also has a pair of tsundere who can admit when they are wrong. As i recall, the Imperial March was played to welcome the king of Saudi Arabia on a state visit. I'm quite sure the Queen was aware of the stealth insult to the Saudi king. Apparently the Welsh Guards did not want to play any music to welcome the Saudi king, and did so under protest, manifested in this piece.
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2012-11-02, 21:34 | Link #797 | |
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The following clip may also be of interest to you and this topic
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