2010-04-18, 15:03 | Link #8341 | |
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Which isn't all that out there. People have thought about that for Kanon and Shannon already. And Jessica's birth is kind of suspect.
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2010-04-18, 15:06 | Link #8342 |
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Yes, Beatrice speaking to Battler was in EP4, when she told him to come out for the test. She even said stuff like, "This is the first time we've spoken on the gameboard" etc... meta-world knowledge.
It's easy to disguise yourself from far away like when Battler 'saw' Beatrice on the balcony. But... over the phone? I mean.. unless Battler totally sucks at identifying voices... I know I can identify voices pretty easily even when they're acting. (Like Japanese voice actresses. *cough*.) Well.. Battler is useless after all... 8) |
2010-04-18, 15:22 | Link #8344 |
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She wouldn't fall under Person X if she was mentioned in the 1st game. Also the 18 person who keeps reappearing EP 2, 4, and 5 could be her real Identity. What your saying is contradicting Battlers role as the detective. Knox's 10th, it is forbidden for a character to disguise themselves as another without any clues. Knox's 1st. It is forbidden for the culprit to be anyone not mentioned in the early part of the story. And don't forget Knox's 8th, it is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not present. Until now, he has been the detective! Was it ever shown that he was not the detective during the 4 games, and that he was an observer with a subjective viewpoint? Unless it was, you do not have the right to falsify his point of view... I took some for Dlanor's words and molded them to my liking. Sorry if it sounds harsh. Oh and thank you Kylon99 for the info.
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2010-04-18, 15:26 | Link #8345 | |
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That contradicts Knox's first for sure because your child is not really Beatrice since Beatrice is dead she's an unknown child born from Beatrice who just so happens to beleive she's Beatrice. So to not affect the person count it would have to be one of the 17 people. and no your reds aren't harsh because they don't contradict anything I said. Edit: oh I got the number wrong the red says 17 sorry about that.
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2010-04-18, 15:42 | Link #8346 |
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We I wasn't trying to contradict you. I just wanted to see if you acknowledge my theory. It's fun for me to have to discuss something as fun as solving the game with everyone so forgive me if I didn't make my intentions clear. I see you think that she is an extra player... by that wouldn't Erika be eliminated off the game for being so. With Kinzo dead, she became the 18 person with in fact the body count would be 19 due to her appearance. My ground is that since Erika killed 5 people as an extra piece I suspect that she would be the real killer, (not her personally but the person who she represents in other words the uninvited 18th guess). With the body count changing I think that 1) there's a way around the red or 2) the Real number or phrasing of the number of people has yet to be released. There can't be 17 people on the island if 18 bodies lay on it and with Erika in the game it goes to 19.
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2010-04-18, 15:47 | Link #8347 |
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Except Furudo Erika had no influence on any of Beato's games before now. So she's not that person and according to them she's not unusual.
It's more like the author is saying they can add in a self insert character or a mary sue character or get rid of other characters anytime they want to suit their story.
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2010-04-18, 15:52 | Link #8348 | |
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I forgot to say that it doesn't have to be Erika but the person she is playing as that could be the guest.
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2010-04-18, 15:56 | Link #8349 | ||
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However, it seems to have been cut relatively early, if it has no art. Remember, ryukishi is pretty wasteful when it comes to just leaving unused assets in. If he created a character, I think their art would've been put in-game even if they were cut at the last second... unless it was his intent to yank the character for ep7 and he wanted to avoid spoilers. EDIT: Here's the list of "misnamed" character portrait files. BUT = Battler. You can sort of read his name this way. ENJ = Ange. "Enjye" is a valid reading of her name and it's really only by asking 07th that we know Ange is the intended romanization. GAP = Gaap. This is probably just an abbreviation, of course. KIR = Kyrie. Probably similar issue to Ange. KLA = Krauss. Klauss is a valid way to read the name though. WAL = Virgilia. It's read "Warugiria" or somesuch so this is understandable, but Virgilia was clearly intended since she's taking the role of Virgil from the Divine Comedy. |
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2010-04-18, 16:04 | Link #8350 | |
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2010-04-18, 16:10 | Link #8351 | |
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2010-04-18, 16:33 | Link #8358 | ||
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I lol'd at these two Van Dine rules:
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2010-04-18, 16:38 | Link #8359 | |
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Then the fact that no "light" was ever mentioned before isn't a good point. Featherinne, Zepar and Furfur are no different.
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2010-04-18, 16:42 | Link #8360 |
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Ryuukishi seems to know of Dine's Rules, but also seems to disagree with them. If he did his research before writing, he'd probably already know of Dine's Rules before writing Episode 3, and in that sense, Battler's solution seems to be an outright defiance of Dine's opinion on good mysteries.
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