2013-06-03, 11:28 | Link #821 |
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Finally watched the Red Wedding. My God it was cruel and unfair on what happen to Robb, Catelyn, Talisa and the rest of the Stark-Tully bannermen.
Nothing good ever happens to the Starks. Ned gave up his honor to save his daughters only for Joffrey to break his promise and kill him. Robb lost two powerful allies that could have help him win the war earlier due to the Baratheon brothers were fighting each other over who should be King and whether the North stays with the 7 Kingdoms or be independent and Balon Greyjoy being a revengeful asshole and bad father which made his best friend Theon betray him in order to win his father's acknowledgement as a true Ironborn and not a Northerner. Catelyn led Littlefinger use her love for her daughters to foolishly release Jaime and have Brienne send him to King's Landing, making Robb lose a high valued hostage. If that wasn't enough, his uncle Edmure was a poor tactician, his bannermen begins to lose hope in him due to his mother's actions and his marriage to Talisa. And one bastard oldman deciding to take Robb's dishonor against him to the extremes by having his family kill the Stark/Tully bannermen. This might be best case of Being Good Sucks. The only good things i hope is that Dany and her army of Dothraki, Unsullied, Second Sons mercs and dragons will be coming to Westeroes, Stannis curse will now come after Balon and Joffrey leading to another power struggle on those sides, the Tyrells might help Sansa against the Lannisters, any allies who didn't attended the Red Wedding now wants the Freys dead and Littlefinger might seek revenge against Walder over what he did to his past love. Anyway, Season 3 finale preview.
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2013-06-03, 12:06 | Link #822 | |
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2013-06-03, 15:28 | Link #825 |
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This isn't even killing two birds with one stone.... poor starcks , they are doomed. Well , we can count on Bran , Arya & Jon. (Theon who is it...)
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2013-06-03, 15:52 | Link #826 |
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That was bloody amazing. I never cared much about Rob but this was so magnificently executed that I couldn't help being shocked. Arya is going to have to add quite a few people to her list. The Stark are dropping like files whereas the Lannisters are still all fine and dandy (well, not so much Jaime...). When is Joffrey going to die, dammit?! I've been waiting three seasons!
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2013-06-03, 16:21 | Link #827 |
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Well, he was cursed by Stannis and Melisandre too. Thus, I expect it to happen within the next season or two. The preview for the next episode already seemed to indicate that Stannis was going after the Ironborn, so once he's down, I expect Joffry to be next.
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2013-06-03, 16:24 | Link #828 |
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Wow, last nights episode was crazy I always knew Rob was going to die because he was an idiot but not so brutally. I haven't fallen in love with a series this hard since Berserk
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2013-06-03, 17:25 | Link #829 |
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Spoiler for book to film comparison...:
Also they left out Catelyn losing her mind and trying to claw her own eyes out as they parade robs corpse around. Still though, probably the most brutal T.V. episode ever as far as emotional damage to the viewer goes.
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2013-06-03, 18:32 | Link #831 |
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To be fair, that could still happen afterwards...in which case I'm adding some spoiler tags .
I also noticed the change in Bolton's line from just "Jaime" to the "Lannisters" in general (idk if this has been brought up yet). I don't know if I like the change or not, since referencing Jaime really drives home how Cat screwed over her entire family and the North, but at the same time the audience knows none of this is actually coming from Jaime so referencing the Lanisters is more plot-centric. |
2013-06-03, 20:04 | Link #833 | |
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As far as making it "THE Lannisters" rather than "Jaime Lannisters" is a mistake in my opinion. Yes it makes it easier for the viewers to follow the plot as they may find that confusing, but it takes away from the nuanced tragedy that is Jaime Lannisters reputation. He will most likely be if not upset at least disappointed to hear of the events of the Red Wedding..."it wasn't very clean". He would have much rather defeated the Starks on the field of battle than through one of the more reprehensible acts of betraying guest rights in recent memory. Just one more knock on his name.
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2013-06-03, 20:37 | Link #834 | |
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2013-06-03, 23:05 | Link #836 |
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Robb should have never executed that angry Karstark guy who slaughtered those Lannister boys. He could have dealt with that at a later time so as not to cause a rift between them. Then he'd never need help from that scum bag Walder Frey... Then again, he might have tried to appease him later on the same way, but perhaps he'd think twice about setting him up if he was King of the North?
Besides the red wedding, I thought the episode was probably the most boring in this season. I really don't care about Robbs little brother who can see through animals and humans etc., nor the fat kid from the nights watch (not that i have anything against him). |
2013-06-03, 23:30 | Link #837 |
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^The mistake is also Cat's for letting Jaime go. Many of the events that follow stem directly from Jaime's release. Rob did wrong by breaking his oath, but if he had retained his military might (by not killing Karstark , who was only rightfully beheaded because he murdered innocent children), it's doubtful that Bolton would have conspired with the Lannisters nor would Walden Frey have sought to betray the Starks (due to fear of retribution from Robb's army).
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2013-06-04, 00:51 | Link #839 | |
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