2012-12-19, 01:23 | Link #822 |
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I find it hard to believe that Marvel lesser heroes will be stomped that easily. Sure, they might be defeated, but these guys never went down that easily.
Beside, what define lesser heroes anyway? Less appearances? Weaker power? |
2012-12-19, 01:42 | Link #823 | |
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The Huckebein are capable of taking easily on say ...The Masters of Evil and i'm confident they can beat most of the Bortherhood of Evil mutants sans for the biggest sticks (Magneto and Juggernaut ...guess Curren herself could deal with those two) . But their anti-magic could possibly gather the attention of some villains wanting to deal with mystical threats like Thor or Dr. Strange (Juggernaut is magical in nature so in a sense the Hucks also have a good advantage over him). Taking Anti-Magic and AEC-crap out of the picture the Nanoha cast ..with their original powers and devices are slightly above City level threats and can even deal with country level foes if they fight togheter which put them on a good spot among the Marvel Universe power-wise (still below World/Cosmic level heroes like Thor, Silver Surfer or the Sentry ...but everyone else in the Maverlverse is below them so it's still fair game xD).
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2012-12-19, 01:53 | Link #824 |
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... You know, I can't but feel that just maybe you're valuing the Hucks a bit too high.
Also, different verse mean different rule of magic. Just because the Hucks can cancel Nanohaverse magic doesn't mean they can also automatically cancel Marvelverse magic. There's a reason why cross overs mechanic's a bitch to balance. |
2012-12-19, 01:54 | Link #825 |
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Except for how their anti-magic specifically only works on Nanoha magic and wouldn't do anything to how people in Marvel use it. And without that in the equation, they're nothing special. How many people in the Marvel universe have healing factors?
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2012-12-19, 04:32 | Link #827 | ||
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Dr. Strange works trough chant, spell formulas and magic circles ...pretty much the stuff Eclipse can cancel ..and even in the case those doesn't work there's Curren who arguably could pósses the power to shut off magic period. We also saw Signum being treated like a child by Cypha because she's a magical being, something that will be troublesome for certain beings in the Marvelverse like Ghost Rider for example. Quote:
It's less about the Hucks being more pwoerfull and more about them having more powers than most marvel heroes who are one-trick-ponies. What i've said about the Master of Evil is pretty closer to the truth, the only two real menaces on the team are The Abomination and Wonder Man (Amora the Enchantress is already screwed by being a sorcerer xDU). The only "magic" i tought they would have troubles with is that from primordial or reality warping beings like Silver Surfer, Scarlet Witch, Surtur, Odin or the like (you know, cosmic-level beings).
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2012-12-19, 05:51 | Link #829 | |
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Ghost Rider got his power from a contract with Mephisto. Unless the Hucks can cancel contract, I sincerely doubt they can do anything to him. As for Dr Strange... here's his profile: http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispace...+%28classic%29 http://marvel.wikia.com/Stephen_Strange_(Earth-616) As you can see, he doesn't just use his own energy. He also manipulate the energy around him and channel that of those that empower him. So unless the Hucks can stop the energy in the environment or have some transdimensional (And I don't mean the one in Nanohaverse BTW), they're fucked. Beside, Strange regularly tangles with the like of Dormammu. DO you really think the Hucks can stand a chance? I think not. |
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2012-12-19, 13:57 | Link #831 | ||||
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Besides, severing a Link dispells any use of mana that is formed trough nexus and conection ...such a Starlight Breaker (a collective spell who gathers mana from the surroundings) or the cannon of a giant battleship. Quote:
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As for the Ghost Rider, the only potentially usefull ability in his arsenal is his skull stare and that's assuming the Hucks can't bleck magical attacks to their minds (according to some people Laevatein breaks just by being in contact with Cypha's contaminated body remember?). Besides, i'm pretty sure Curren can pull off something like fighting him with her eyes close or looking at his feet at all times. So far she has shown to be and hyper competent fighter. The Hucks aren't invincible ...as long as you're not fool enough to send magic users against them (right Signum?). Why risk the live of the good doctor if you have powerfull mutants and smart scientists who can develope effective coutnermeasures against them? After the first raid i'm pretty sure Spidey and Reed Richards could come up with something effective to battle them.
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2012-12-19, 17:23 | Link #832 |
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I agree with Akiyoshi but not on the mind stuff. So far magic users on the Nanohaverse are able to communicate with their minds but never used as a weapon so it will seem this is only a thing to talk so I don’t really think they can resist the Ghost Rider power.
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2012-12-19, 17:43 | Link #833 |
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It's more demonic power, really. Which needs not be magical in nature. And it doesn't attack your mind, it burns out your very soul. Given that no Nanoha magic has ever shown to affect the soul, we can safely say Ghost Rider's power works on a whole different level.
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2012-12-19, 18:28 | Link #834 |
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Yeah, and if you said their Anti-Magic wouldn't work on primordial stuff, Ghost Rider is either a demon or an angel, both of which count.
Dormammu's also the lord of his own dimension if I have it right, so he's a bit of a step above the Book of Darkness. This is some pretty bad Huck-wank all around. |
2012-12-19, 18:57 | Link #835 |
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Well to be fair I don't think anyone should be able to stand if we put guys likes gods or forces of the universe on the stage. So really the Hucks and manu other will get their ass handle around by beings like Odin, Silver Surffer or Dormammu
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Also, I took a look at Ghost Rider's power. Guess what, it came from a demon INSIDE him. The name is Zarathos. So unless they can separate those two, the skull chopper stil win. And no, his flames won't be negated. IFrom the wiki: Hellfire is an emphyreal and supernatural flame that burns the soul of a person and can be used to burn their physical body. And since the Hucks don't show any resistant to that kind of fuckery, they're still screwed. Quote:
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As for Ghost Rider, the Penance Stare doesn't just mindfuck people. It can also soulfuck. So no, Hucks still die. And really, do you think that closing her eyes would works? Do you really think that she's the first one to use that tactics? ... I think I see the problem. They beat SIgnum, your idol => They're super strong. Is that it? |
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2012-12-19, 23:44 | Link #838 |
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It's "Anything supernatural", be it psychic or magic, but it's depiction on how far it works is a bit... odd.
But for all intents and purposes yeah, he could tank a Starlight Breaker and yeah, he'd probably make some poor girl's barrier jacket explode.
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