2009-08-27, 02:00 | Link #842 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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(2-3 hours in you've probably just finished the "scenario setting" sections, but haven't even hit the generator repair scenes yet.) Now, as for my personal experience with Ever 17? Probably around 20-25 hours to unlock the true path, using a walkthrough after I got my bad end on my first play and fast forwarding through scenes that were shared with routes I already played. Then maybe 7-8 hours for the true path itself. And it was by far the most memorable thing I read, watched or played in 2008 (the year I played it in). |
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2009-08-27, 02:07 | Link #843 |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hungary, Europe
Age: 39
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I can't really guesstimate confidently as I've played it many years ago.
The true ending means Coco's route, however one has to finish the 4 "normal" routes in order to start Coco's route. I would say that the normal routes takes several hours each or so, but once you finish one of the normal routes, you can start skipping the already read text (ergo most of the tagging game parts, and the chicken burger scenes). And please don't abandon the game just because some parts of the normal routes are boring. Ever 17 is one of those games whereas the massive ending is the very best part. (But it wouldn't make any sense if you just load a full save.... Please don't butcher it like that.)
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2009-08-27, 04:32 | Link #845 | |
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I'd say go through Tsugumi's next. Its also my favorite route after Coco's. (though nothing else in the visual novel really compared to the last half of Coco's route) You'll run into a nice change of scenarios there. |
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2009-08-27, 07:26 | Link #846 |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Everyone gets disheartened reading Ever17 because there's no fast way to skip the parts you've already read. You can set it to fast forward to the next choice, but that way you might be missing on something if you aren't careful, since it won't stop fast forwarding when you reach some of the route-specific content (that is scattered all over).
Yeah my gripe with Ever17 was the forced re-reading, I wish it was like Tsukihime where you can quickly skip parts already read. But the true end was worth it all. |
2009-08-27, 11:31 | Link #848 | |
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Ive enjoyed every second of Ever17, while there were some scenes in FSN or Tsukihime that just bored me to death. Actually, both Sakura's and Ciel's path made me fall asleep. Oh, and yeah, Ever17 skip function is the best I've seen so far, it is single line precise - skips skips skips, stops to allow you to read a single line and continues skipping - brilliant.
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2009-08-27, 16:21 | Link #849 | |
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Sara is boring though, F3 will be my favorite button on her path. |
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2009-08-27, 17:19 | Link #850 | |
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Don't expect to be completely out of the woods in terms of long, boring scenes where they just hang out, though. Just expect the more interesting story situations to kinda make up for it. It probably took me a good 6 months to read through Ever 17, since I'd take long breaks in between routes. Ever 17 is one of those cases where its not going to be as awesome if you know what's coming, but there's some stuff that happens right at the end that's going to be pretty awesome regardless, including one of the few cases where I've seen a certain common subject handled correctly. (people who've read all the way through might have some idea what I'm talking about) Also, you'll find that Takeshi is a little different (AKA not just an idiot) and significantly more likable as the protagonist. Manly lead is manly. Takeshi = You > Sara > Tsugumi (in before the fanboys) > Coco >>> Sora >>> the Kid |
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2009-08-27, 17:29 | Link #851 | ||
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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I absolutely loved the final route, but I was also "hooked" by the time I reached the end of Tsugumi's route. I don't think I would have completed the game in just over a week otherwise. Edit: Quote:
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2009-08-27, 22:45 | Link #852 | |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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I don't know what it is... all the hide-and-go-seek... the chicken sandwiches... the MacGyver like whipping up of a vaccine... or the BAWWING over a hologram... I just can't get into the mood with this game. I think it's mainly the fact that I want to scream at the characters: "WTF are you doing! You're gonna die! Don't F-ing play hide-and-seek!" "Who cares if you have to eat chicken sandwiches, at least you don't need to eat each other!" "WTF... virus!?" "Dude... shes a hologram... why are you trying to "save" her?" |
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2009-08-28, 00:54 | Link #853 |
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I beat Tsugumi's route, it was certainly a change of pace from Kid... Kid's story seemed to focus more on the mystery element while Takashi's seemed more about the character's themselves.
Spoiler for End for Tsugumi:
Since I've gone through both perspectives once, is there going to be a lot of skippable dialog or do the routes have a lot of new dialog? |
2009-08-28, 01:29 | Link #854 | ||
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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@AC195: Sounds like a bad case of suspension of disbelief failure. I can't really help with that since I never had that problem.
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Coco's route is actually longer than the others and doesn't share dialogue once you hit around day 3, but it's not that noticeable because the pacing is much more intense. |
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2009-08-28, 17:35 | Link #858 | |
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But yeah, I can totally understand the hide-and-seek part. I also thought "wtf are they doiiiing????". There must have been more FITTING things they could have put in the story...those people must have some weird method of coping with mental stress --- No idea about the fast-forwarding in the localization, which most people here obviously are reading. Japanese version stopped just fine every single time a new sentence came up. Unlike Never7...-__- |
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2009-08-30, 02:09 | Link #859 |
Pretentious moe scholar
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Age: 37
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I recently ended up watching Genshiken with my anime club and noticed something this time around that I never noticed the first time around:
http://img30.imageshack.us/i/genshikenf.jpg/ |
2009-08-30, 05:28 | Link #860 |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Age: 33
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After having finished the game today, I can say for sure this is the best VN I've played so far.
This is the first time in a long long time that I've been driven so close to shedding tears for the characters... In addition, the true ending was truly heartwarming. It really takes a good game to attach the reader to the characters. Spoiler for contains a hint to a major plot twist:
The fact that I have to move on and look for another thing to spend time on depresses me... I'm still praying for the slim chance that another member of the infinity series gets translated. |
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