2021-02-26, 22:38 | Link #8682 |
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You really think Shun WANTS to do nothing? Like I said, Shun is only seemingly doing nothing because Shiro and everyone else is doing everything in their power to make sure he can't do anything that might hinder their plans. It's victim blaming, the rich telling the poor that it's their own fault they are poor, that meme with the person shooting someone dead on the chair and then asking why would someone do this, a soccer mom forcing her child because she knows what's best for them, you get the idea. Shun is already doing everything with what he knows within his power already, and him getting criticized for failing some impossible standard doesn't sit well with me.
Communication. If only.
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Shiro's only goal is Ariel's happiness and safety. I don't think it would even occur to her to choose a plan where that was even slightly at risk, even if said plan reduced the loss of life on the planet or the risk of fighting Gulie or Dustin. Quote:
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It's simply that it would be labour intensive for them to check which elves Potimas had put parts of his soul in, so they wiped them all out.
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2021-02-27, 15:29 | Link #8687 |
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The thing is that fighting Gyurie and Dustin greatly decreases the chance of success of Shiro plan. Especially since Shiro greatly overestimates Gyurie strength so she thinks the chance of winning are much lower then they actually are. So such a plan would need a significantly higher chance of failing for it outweigh not having to fight Gyurie or Dustin.
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2021-02-27, 18:17 | Link #8689 |
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Hello everyone!!!!, I integrate me to the forum, sorry if my English is bad, I'm still learning.
There have been no updates in the last few days right? The other, hurts about Oni-Kun, I wanted him to survive until the end, is there no chance that he will reappear again? (although I doubt it, it was never said if he acquired any abilities like "Immortality"). Question, in Japan, is Shun a popular character? due to how favored he is by the script, I was hoping that Oni-Kun would defeat him even with that, but at this rate he might even defeat Ariel. |
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2021-02-28, 16:05 | Link #8691 | |
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Ariel is 100% fated for soul collapse at this point thanks to that fight completely straining her out. |
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2021-02-28, 16:24 | Link #8692 |
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OK, it's been a while, remind me again, was that Shiro letting her do that or was that Maou-chan being selfish ruining Shiro's plans? I forgot the finer plot points already and it's unlikely I'm going to read this or any narou again for quite some time. So yeah, I've been talking from my impression I had when I left this work, but then I guess it could be that Shiro is just committing to the rest of her ruined plans as a sort of revenge to the world that made Maou-chan suffer so. If she wasn't, then I stand corrected. Maybe she now genuinely cares for the inhabitants of that world and genuinely believes that this genocide will benefit them, Thanos style.
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2021-02-28, 18:00 | Link #8693 | |
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So what outlook do you take? Try to keep everyone alive? Not enough MA energy to disable the system. Either it collapses before the planet is restored and everyone dies and there are the same number or more of soul deaths as Shiro's plan or The vast majority of beings on the planet undergo soul death before the system collapses and maybe the planet is restored. Kill enough people to have enough MA energy to disable the system? lots of deaths and will result in a considerable amount of soul deaths. Planet is stable. inhabitants are no longer force to incarnate and will allow their souls to start healing. Keep the system from collapsing? The vast majority of beings on the planet undergo soul death and maybe the planet is restored There are no good fixes. Shiro's plan is the one that has both the most living people and souls surviving .
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2021-02-28, 19:03 | Link #8694 | |
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First thing first: Shiro's plan will results in a genocide, but it has the least risk in soul collapse.
Regardless of Shiro's Intentions, she did take the consideration to avoid soul collapse in her plan instead of lol whatever as long as Ariel is happy. Quote:
Shiro tried to stop Ariel from fighting Potimas as that's going to shorten Ariel's life from a couple of hundreds year left to soul collapse in immediate future. But Ariel absolutely refuse to give the chance of killing Potimas to anyone else. She already decided that instead of doing nothing in the remaining of her life, she is going to use whatever left that's in herself to achieve what she wants. Shiro backed down knowing there is no way to change Ariel's mind, and knowing she is in no place to voice opinions when it comes to what had happened between Ariel and Potimas. She'll just work out the plan base on what Ariel already decided to do. Last edited by shmaster; 2021-03-01 at 01:04. |
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2021-02-28, 22:31 | Link #8695 |
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Continue to remind me, why was Dustin's plan inferior to Shiro's? Is he intending to keep the system after killing Sariel? Was there any reason why it had to be the masses that die and not the higher beings? Because if it doesn't matter where the energy comes from then all Shun had to do is kill Maou-chan and Kuro (lol plot armor) and then shut the system down, maybe even offer his own life while he's at it to at least free Sariel.
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2021-03-01, 00:12 | Link #8696 | |
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I'm not sure why they can't just sacrifice higher beings but my best guess that they simply do not have enough power. Both Shiro and Kuro are low rank gods so they have have relatively little power. So it's likely both of them combine will still be not enough energy to restore the planet. For Ariel it doesn't matter if she dies or not since her energy will go back to the planet if the system is shuts down. Another possible reason is that since Shiro and Kuro aren't part of the system they can't donate energy to the system. And they can't directly donate energy to the planet since it is unlikely to be compatible with the world. For the same reason why it was stated that the plan to sacrifice Sariel was doomed to fail since the energy from Sariel and the energy that the planet need are different. |
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2021-03-01, 01:00 | Link #8697 |
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Yeah Dustin's plan iirc in the his best most likely case scenario will have Kuro be sacrificed and then humanity has another civil war to make up for the missing MA energy as the system is nonviolently turned off so soul death wouldn't be an issue. Just that the plan is pretty optimistic cause of a variety of factors with Kuro even if he wins probably going to be drained of a lot of energy which makes the plan more dubious. So characters IC suspect he has a secret plan that is so horrible he can't tell anyone else to get any missing energy that is needed. Wonder what that plan is, summoning people from other worlds to sacrifice the fresh souls of?
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2021-03-01, 01:01 | Link #8698 |
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What's our timeline again? A couple decades? or was it a few centuries?
Why was murder necessary again? What's wrong with letting the humans die of old age? What's stopping a Madoka program (from Madoka Magica) to work? ie. Shiro or anyone else hijacking the system or planting babies in every living being and only taking their lives when they are about to die.
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2021-03-01, 01:11 | Link #8699 |
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The timing is the biggest problem here. It is volatile.
It can jump between destruction in a few month to a number of year. And soul collapse is already happening, just slowly. But it is going to speed up as time progress. The longer human live within the system, the more likely their soul are going to be gone for good. Let humam die of old age? Sure why not, soul collapse awaits you! Last edited by shmaster; 2021-03-01 at 03:36. |
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