Syosetsuka ni Narou Discussion Thread

[kari-no-sugata II]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

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Random other thought 1: Yep, it should be older > stronger
In fact, in a world with actual level-up system, anyone will be compelled to kill monsters on daily basis

It's free power-up for life after all. Should help people be healthier, more productive, etc. If setting is world where monsters only breed though normal biology (ie no auto-respawn) it should even be possible to hunt them to extinction.

Conversely, if possible, farm them and then harvest for exp! Humans would definitely try that sort of thing...

Random other thought 2: Guild being weird I said about it before, it should be the strongest faction in the world in it's Vanilla State

Yep. Imagine an international church except all the believers are combat specialists. Totally safe. Honest.

[Garn]

It would be great to see an Isekai that is beginning to be besieged by cosmic terrors or some alien race (technological or biological)

Or a protagonist who, the more powerful his powers become, begins to look like a cosmic terror or terrifying component like Alucard.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Garn

It would be great to see an Isekai that is beginning to be besieged by cosmic terrors or some alien race (technological or biological)

Or a protagonist who, the more powerful his powers become, begins to look like a cosmic terror or terrifying component like Alucard.

I recall there was an isekai where the mc was reborn as a dungeon core with an alien theme.

[wuhugm]

Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata II

It's free power-up for life after all. Should help people be healthier, more productive, etc. If setting is world where monsters only breed though normal biology (ie no auto-respawn) it should even be possible to hunt them to extinction.

Conversely, if possible, farm them and then harvest for exp! Humans would definitely try that sort of thing...

Also don't forget that KILLING OTHER PEOPLE also gives EXP!
Yay!

And the "Metal Slime Tactic"! Even just damaging a very high level entity will increase low-level by a whole lot!
So, you know, use dirty methods to kidnap high ranking female adventurer then gangbang torture her
1 girl 99999 perverts
FOR THE GREATER GOOD

Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata II

Yep. Imagine an international church except all the believers are combat specialists. Totally safe. Honest.

Totally safe bro

Originally Posted by Garn

It would be great to see an Isekai that is beginning to be besieged by cosmic terrors or some alien race (technological or biological)

Or a protagonist who, the more powerful his powers become, begins to look like a cosmic terror or terrifying component like Alucard.

Demons are usually from another dimension anyway, what's the difference

Monstrosity MC? Nobody would read that

[Garn]

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Non-humanoid and more terror-oriented entities, demons are already mere existences like elves and dwarves.

Not the protagonist, but his ability or power.
It can be as simple as using body parts to create temporary creatures:

"The MC tears off his hand and throws it to the ground, this hand grows and while the nails transform into claws and a mouth grows in the lower part, in the part from where it was torn off it will continue to bleed and from this blood more of the same type will come out but smaller"

[Amelgar]

Sounds like the MC from 四度目は嫌な死属性魔術師 ;D

[kari-no-sugata II]

Originally Posted by Garn

It would be great to see an Isekai that is beginning to be besieged by cosmic terrors or some alien race (technological or biological)

Or a protagonist who, the more powerful his powers become, begins to look like a cosmic terror or terrifying component like Alucard.

How about MC is reincarnated from Earth to fantasy world... only to find it's set centuries in the future and the Earth is now invading that fantasy world after Earth expanded out into the universe

(ie make Earth the "big bad")

[Garn]

^^
It is the only one that comes to mind, but the terrifying component decays when it is almost a secret that only the enemies know and the allies don't care about.


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That would be refreshing, a reversal of "earth invasion by an advanced civilization based on something magical."

[Rasty]

I would love to see a fantasy world in the middle of being overrun by monsters. Not demon army or such, just oceans of monsters. To specify, being overrun means the human living space is slowly shrinking, cities and fortresses on the borders can just randomly get overrun every once in a while. It would make a great story for the MC (reincarnated or not) to appear there in such times when already a significant part is overrun (1/2-2/3) and having to do something about it. Best if he was a noble (could have personal power, but not god level, just strong).

[Garn]

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It could also be good that the MC arrives shortly before everything starts and goes through all the fall events of each city and fortress (as in Kuro no Maou at the beginning),
And maybe instead of nobility a special military rank would be better, after all the countries will be falling or going into ruin.

[wuhugm]

Originally Posted by Rasty

I would love to see a fantasy world in the middle of being overrun by monsters. Not demon army or such, just oceans of monsters. To specify, being overrun means the human living space is slowly shrinking, cities and fortresses on the borders can just randomly get overrun every once in a while. It would make a great story for the MC (reincarnated or not) to appear there in such times when already a significant part is overrun (1/2-2/3) and having to do something about it. Best if he was a noble (could have personal power, but not god level, just strong).

That's Chrome Shelled Regios LMAO

Also Muv-Luv Alternative series

[Rasty]

Not really, CSR is a post-apocalyptic stable scenario and I don't know much about MLA, but I also don't exactly love mecha.

I meant something more of the typical isekai template (swords and magic kind), but monsters being about 10 times more numerous and more aggressive leading to a blob of uninhabited lands full of monsters that is slowly expanding. A scenario where humans are genuinely going to lose all land in something like 10-50 years if things continue at this pace (no 1 big invasion, just continuous encroaching on living space).

[Kyureki]

^ While not fully isekai, the chinese novel Versatile Mage is pretty close to that. Alternate version of Earth where magic replaces science and humanity is in constant war with monsters, with several regions of the world being untouched by man due to the monsters there being too abundant and/or too strong.

[Rasty]

Yeah, I read that one, though it pretty much steers away from that later on.

[Kyureki]

From what I've read of spoilers, there are arcs later on after the MC reaches super tier that involve a world-wide sea monster invasion.

[wuhugm]

Versatile Mage... sigh
Despite the threat of monsters is very real, arrogant people swagging around is still a thing

Oh btw, regarding that, new rant

"People saved by the MC ONCE, will be safe forever"

In his adventures, MC will save some people (from usually minor threats)
And those people
Either they will never face such threat again, or MC will save them again and again
Practically making them safe forever, which is unrealistic at all

A thing in JP, not as much as in CN

I've just read Martial Peak Manhua
There the MC saved a girl and her family from villains
Then they separated
Later, MC met the girl's mom again
It turns out that the girl got raped and died

Which is sad, but when the hero left, it's easy for such things to happen again
How many times MC will be in time to save a carriage from being attacked?

[Garn]

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Although different, I have a problem related to that.
The MC is forced to help in one way or another,
-Whether the character tells t the MC a summary out of nowhere
-Whether the MC is releasing a monologue about why to help or not
-Whether the MC refuses but quickly changes his mind
Etc.

It's really difficult to put an MC who really wants to help just for the sake of helping, because can or wants to make the effort
Instead of praising an MC who always complains about not wanting to stand out or be dragged

[wuhugm]

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With great power comes great responsibility, right?

Problem is, MC's power is The Power of Literal GOD

Especially prick like Satou who has Active Map, can literally lock on enemies kilometers away and nuke them, while still on the fricking map interface

If you don't help people with that kind of power then you're just a jerk
Of course self-aware jerk MC is always welcomed

On that note, recommend me an OP MC but with very specific OP-ness
Like if he's a crafter, then even if he's OP in combat, it's because of his crafted items
Or a Sniper, which is bad in close combat

[Rasty]

^ That's actually a mindset that gets on my nerves in many novels. It's one thing to help people just because you want to, but the is no obligation to help others just because you are strong. Did the others pay you for it? Did they help you to get the power? If yes then you definitely should help them, otherwise something like "Have to become a slave to their need just because I can do what they want" is stupid, especially when directed to strangers.

[wuhugm]

Originally Posted by Rasty

Did the others pay you for it?

Japanese MCs aspiring to become adventurer is forgetting the most important rule of being adventurer "Accept the quest if the price is right" is funny

Btw, I rarely see MC haggles in any transactions

Well, usually in 1 week the MCs will figure out a way to get infinite money tho
(creating magic stones)(plagiarism)(etc)