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Bonta Kun · 2008-01-23, 16:23

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Originally Posted by TigerII

I still don't understand the popularity..lol. I like the show but it is an economic and adventure show. Is everyone just that obsessed with Horo?

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Originally Posted by Grimkill7

All-in-all, Horo IS my goddess, but she wouldn't be anywhere near as great without all of the other elements shaping her character.

yep that pretty much sums it for me, Horo is a great character and not one easily forgotten(that would be thanks to the ears and tail

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but then I could also say her first apperance in both anime and manga had me hooked, guess showing up butt naked has a very powerful effect on me

(thats most likely teh inner ecchi speaking there)

sooo what would u call a Horo follower? Horonite? Horowegian? Horo....ner?

jigenbakuda · 2008-01-23, 16:28

Horo reminded me of ryuck from dead note (just a little) in this episode. She was just watching and laughing the whole time. First she spent all his money, he was like you have to start paying for your way. She was like shut up, I'm horo the great, I make money for fun. Then after he is satisfied with 5 she gets him 12 and it looks as if she planned it from the beginning. Man lawarence got his *ss pwned by horo. Then later she enlightens him about looking at stuff from a different perspective... Man why is horo 3 steps ahead of him? Its like horo is just with him to laugh. Its like she knows the answer, but just wants to see what he will do (really she wants to see him mess up, but she'll save him if it goes too far). Its reasons like this that I'm a horo-phile...

FatPianoBoy · 2008-01-23, 16:32

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Originally Posted by Bonta Kun

sooo what would u call a Horo follower? Horonite? Horowegian? Horo....ner?

A follower of Horoism would be a Horoist.

12 characters.

Grimkill7 · 2008-01-23, 16:32

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Originally Posted by Bonta Kun

sooo what would u call a Horo follower? Horonite? Horowegian? Horo....ner?

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Originally Posted by jigenbakuda

Its reasons like this that I'm a horo-phile...

I vote Horo-phile.

But seriously, there should really be a vote for this kind of thing once the Church of Horo is officially established.

Vexx · 2008-01-23, 16:42

aye, its the complete package of interesting elements. Maybe you have to be Civ player or Settlers boardgame fan?

For me, I'm a fan of of a number of the story's elements (feudal transitioning to market economy, Old religions vs aggressive new religions, animism, leisurely paced romance between two (maybe three) people, etc). Both Horo and Lawrence have some depth to their behavior and personality making it hard for anyone paying attention to slap some archetype label on them.

As far as Horo... well, she's had nearly 600 years to observe human-stuff and behavior, Lawrence has only been at it 7 years - though he catches on very fast (probably one of the higher intelligences in the region).

**Solace** · 2008-01-23, 17:12

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Originally Posted by TigerII

I still don't understand the popularity..lol. I like the show but it is an economic and adventure show. Is everyone just that obsessed with Horo?

Yes. It's a good show but do you think it's so popular because of farmer talk?

It might also have to do with the fact that there aren't many shows this season, and of those only like four hold any major interest. So there's a little bit of slice of life, romance, setting, and fantasy complete with a cute girl and a decent male lead for people to get behind.

It's actually probably a good thing Spice and Wolf came out during a quieter time of the season honestly. Any other time it might have been drowned out by bigger named series.

ellifeedn · 2008-01-23, 17:14

I wonder if this series will get licensed.

Masanori Ota · 2008-01-23, 17:20

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Originally Posted by ellifeedn

I wonder if this series will get licensed.

Doubt it, personally. Not enough explosions.

Grimkill7 · 2008-01-23, 17:22

Oh God. Could you imagine them making dub Horo speak in Old English or something?

jigenbakuda · 2008-01-23, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Masanori Ota

Doubt it, personally. Not enough explosions.

speaking of that. How popular is this show with the japanese? I know they love the op, because its all over nico (might not be representative...) I know the laid back pace of this show is only acceptable with shoujo (in america), so how does it fit in with the japanese tastes?

Well horo (okamimimi are to die for!) was enough for me, but add op, then add the setting and this series is pure win for me...

Masanori Ota · 2008-01-23, 17:50

In a slow winter season such as this, I'd assume SaW has captured its own share of the market. 2chan has had a number of threads about the anime (most positive, some don't like the added character and such). That's all I know.

TigerII · 2008-01-23, 17:58

Oi, I got into not because of Horo, not because of Lawrence....mainly because it was a business show of sorts and I don't know why...but that is what drew me in. Guess that is why I am not obsessed with Horo as some..cough..anyways. Yeah.

Vexx · 2008-01-23, 18:15

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Originally Posted by jigenbakuda

speaking of that. How popular is this show with the japanese? I know they love the op, because its all over nico (might not be representative...) I know the laid back pace of this show is only acceptable with shoujo (in america), so how does it fit in with the japanese tastes?

Well horo (okamimimi are to die for!) was enough for me, but add op, then add the setting and this series is pure win for me...

Okay I'll bite: "I know the laid back pace of this show is only acceptable with shoujo (in america)"

On what basis and reference do you "know" that? Now if you'd said, "It seems like it may that this would be more popular with shoujo tastes." ... I might have let it lay there

. I have no speculation on who might like this series because it contains many cross-over elements of appeal. Anyone who likes fictional stories in feudal settings with a dash of supernatural, perhaps.

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Oh God. Could you imagine them making dub Horo speak in Old English or something?

@Grimkill7: Actually, I'd have her speak mostly Shakespeare's tongue (elegant and witty) with a random dose of Old English ala Beowulf or perhaps a bit of Old Norse given her birthplace

TigerII · 2008-01-23, 18:25

Finnish. I just pulled that outta my ass..but lol. So wouldn't she have an Olde Enlgish accent? That was more Germanic in type. She would have an Eastern/Northern European accent.

Vexx · 2008-01-23, 18:28

yeah... the older the tongue you use the more you'd have to just kind of use the grammar structure and sprinkle enough words in to make it sound exotic (particularly when she's muttering). It would have to have some mode that sounds very formal or poetic to modern ears though.

jigenbakuda · 2008-01-23, 22:02

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Originally Posted by Vexx

Okay I'll bite: "I know the laid back pace of this show is only acceptable with shoujo (in america)"

On what basis and reference do you "know" that? Now if you'd said, "It seems like it may that this would be more popular with shoujo tastes." ... I might have let it lay there

. I have no speculation on who might like this series because it contains many cross-over elements of appeal. Anyone who likes fictional stories in feudal settings with a dash of supernatural, perhaps.

True true, I should watch how I say stuff around here, huh? Well you are right. My main comparison was shonen go boom and shoujo is about wubby dubby character driven plots. But that of course is an over generalization. I know for a fact that even though I'm a guy I have a strong preference for typically shoujo stuff.On the other hand most things I hear americans talk about (anime club at college, what I hear from anime conventions, and cartoon network, lol) are shounen or more on the shounen side. To the point where if I see any girls interested in anime/manga they prefer shounen, which is strange to me, because shoujo/josei is marketed for them, yet I hear so few ladies talk about that kind of stuff (maybe I'm not in the right circles, which is highly probable). Anyways I was trying to say or imply that perhaps this show would/might not fare well in america, or at least be over looked because of it's lack of explosions."I know the laid back pace of this show is only acceptable with shoujo (in america)" = in 3 episodes lawrence has not got "busy", horo has not turned into the kyuubi 9 tailed fox (I know she is a wolf), they are traveling and talking at a leisurely pace as they travel from place to place, and the op does not have heavy guitars (not pace related, lol). That seemed anti-shounen to me, but I did not make myself clear and should of expressed in a different way *hangs head* (but I guess its not anti shounen, its just a cross over). Buuuut horo-chan might pull in some american views.

Ultenth · 2008-01-23, 23:21

It's actually classified as sienen to my knowledge. In other words it's for adult males, and thus the lack of overly stimulating stuff found in shounen (pantsu shots, explosions, etc.).

jigenbakuda · 2008-01-23, 23:50

Really? I didn't know that, but it makes sense. It seems like a story that would be for older males...

Westlo · 2008-01-24, 00:52

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Originally Posted by Masanori Ota

In a slow winter season such as this, I'd assume SaW has captured its own share of the market. 2chan has had a number of threads about the anime (most positive, some don't like the added character and such). That's all I know.

Don't suppose anyone can post a list of the 2 chan threads for winter anime... um I think it was Karou who did it last time.

Khaos · 2008-01-25, 05:02

Just a little btw story:
Yesterday I visited a friend (who also likes Horo) at his workplace at a small university library. Later in the evening a woman with a dog came, and since she was busy, the dog strolled around and came to us, licking our hands searching for attention.
It was a cute female dog at about the size of a small wolf and she had partly red fur, pointed ears and looked at us with biig eyes, so I just had to call her Horo.

2008-01-23, 16:28	Link #882
jigenbakuda Kazumi sure is cute... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jacksonville Florida Age: 40	Horo reminded me of ryuck from dead note (just a little) in this episode. She was just watching and laughing the whole time. First she spent all his money, he was like you have to start paying for your way. She was like shut up, I'm horo the great, I make money for fun. Then after he is satisfied with 5 she gets him 12 and it looks as if she planned it from the beginning. Man lawarence got his *ss pwned by horo. Then later she enlightens him about looking at stuff from a different perspective... Man why is horo 3 steps ahead of him? Its like horo is just with him to laugh. Its like she knows the answer, but just wants to see what he will do (really she wants to see him mess up, but she'll save him if it goes too far). Its reasons like this that I'm a horo-phile... __________________ If one sets a trap, isn't it the victim's fault for falling in?

2008-01-23, 16:42	Link #885
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	aye, its the complete package of interesting elements. Maybe you have to be Civ player or Settlers boardgame fan? For me, I'm a fan of of a number of the story's elements (feudal transitioning to market economy, Old religions vs aggressive new religions, animism, leisurely paced romance between two (maybe three) people, etc). Both Horo and Lawrence have some depth to their behavior and personality making it hard for anyone paying attention to slap some archetype label on them. As far as Horo... well, she's had nearly 600 years to observe human-stuff and behavior, Lawrence has only been at it 7 years - though he catches on very fast (probably one of the higher intelligences in the region). __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2008-01-23, 17:50	Link #891
Masanori Ota It's Horo, not Han Solo. Join Date: Jun 2006	In a slow winter season such as this, I'd assume SaW has captured its own share of the market. 2chan has had a number of threads about the anime (most positive, some don't like the added character and such). That's all I know. __________________

2008-01-23, 18:28	Link #895
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	yeah... the older the tongue you use the more you'd have to just kind of use the grammar structure and sprinkle enough words in to make it sound exotic (particularly when she's muttering). It would have to have some mode that sounds very formal or poetic to modern ears though. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2008-01-23, 23:50	Link #898
jigenbakuda Kazumi sure is cute... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jacksonville Florida Age: 40	Really? I didn't know that, but it makes sense. It seems like a story that would be for older males... __________________ If one sets a trap, isn't it the victim's fault for falling in?

2008-01-23, 17:14	Link #887
ellifeedn Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York	I wonder if this series will get licensed.

2008-01-23, 17:22	Link #889
Grimkill7 Inattentive Dreamer Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 35	Oh God. Could you imagine them making dub Horo speak in Old English or something?

2008-01-23, 17:58	Link #892
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	Oi, I got into not because of Horo, not because of Lawrence....mainly because it was a business show of sorts and I don't know why...but that is what drew me in. Guess that is why I am not obsessed with Horo as some..cough..anyways. Yeah.

2008-01-23, 18:25	Link #894
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	Finnish. I just pulled that outta my ass..but lol. So wouldn't she have an Olde Enlgish accent? That was more Germanic in type. She would have an Eastern/Northern European accent.

2008-01-23, 23:21	Link #897
Ultenth Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Washington State	It's actually classified as sienen to my knowledge. In other words it's for adult males, and thus the lack of overly stimulating stuff found in shounen (pantsu shots, explosions, etc.).

2008-01-25, 05:02	Link #900
Khaos Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: München	Just a little btw story: Yesterday I visited a friend (who also likes Horo) at his workplace at a small university library. Later in the evening a woman with a dog came, and since she was busy, the dog strolled around and came to us, licking our hands searching for attention. It was a cute female dog at about the size of a small wolf and she had partly red fur, pointed ears and looked at us with biig eyes, so I just had to call her Horo.