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Old 2010-10-13, 18:53   Link #9221
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But the Astraea was never in the public eye as a "Gundam", unlike Exia or Dynames, which would be recognized on sight.



Pretty much, yeah. They already had the 00 Condenser-Type, and when Jihad-kun went comatose they probably melted it down as well.
Jihad Kun....lol..really?
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Old 2010-10-13, 19:08   Link #9222
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Pretty much, yeah. They already had the 00 Condenser-Type, and when Jihad-kun went comatose they probably melted it down as well.
Actually, the 00 Raiser was assimilated by the ELS, the only thing that they salvaged was the cockpit when the Seravee II ripped it out.
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Old 2010-10-13, 19:09   Link #9223
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Actually, the 00 Raiser was assimilated by the ELS, the only thing that they salvaged was the cockpit when the Seravee II ripped it out.
Makes ya wonder why we didn't see any ELS 00s flying around.
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Old 2010-10-13, 19:14   Link #9224
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Makes ya wonder why we didn't see any ELS 00s flying around.
Probably because they didn't think it to be that special. After all, it wasn't a machine that could generate GN-Particles.
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Old 2010-10-13, 19:15   Link #9225
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Hm, well what about the Gadelaza?
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Old 2010-10-13, 19:38   Link #9226
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Hm, well what about the Gadelaza?
I've actually been wondering about that one myself. You'd think out of all of them the Gadelaza would be more interesting than the GN-XIVs. It could be that they just didn't have enough available power and materials to effectively replicate it on a mass scale.
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Old 2010-10-13, 19:47   Link #9227
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I seriously doubt the ELS couldn't replicate the Gadelaza.

They assimilated one of Jupiter's moons and turned it into a base, the ELS can assimilate and replicate anything.
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Old 2010-10-13, 19:53   Link #9228
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I seriously doubt the ELS couldn't replicate the Gadelaza.

They assimilated one of Jupiter's moons and turned it into a base, the ELS can assimilate and replicate anything.
What I'm saying is that conservation of energy is still in play. A base operated in the manner the ELS used Europa doesn't really take up much energy. The ELS that were fighting, though, didn't have enough of an energy supply to effectively do it. Granted, a bunch of them could have come together to make up for this.
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Old 2010-10-13, 19:57   Link #9229
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It it still stands, if they can assimilate the Bahkail class ships and countless mobile suits, then they can assimilate and replicate the Gadelaza.
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Old 2010-10-13, 20:06   Link #9230
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It it still stands, if they can assimilate the Bahkail class ships and countless mobile suits, then they can assimilate and replicate the Gadelaza.
I'm not saying they can't; I'm just saying it would take a ton of them to do it.
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Old 2010-10-13, 20:18   Link #9231
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I'm not saying they can't; I'm just saying it would take a ton of them to do it.
Only of them assimilated it.
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Old 2010-10-13, 20:22   Link #9232
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Only of them assimilated it.
But did it actually shapeshift into it?
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Old 2010-10-13, 20:25   Link #9233
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Didn't the ELS crushed the Gadelaza? Could the ELS still take the form of the object(s) that they destroyed?
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Old 2010-10-13, 20:26   Link #9234
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Didn't the ELS crushed the Gadelaza? Could the ELS still take the form of the object(s) that they destroyed?
Sure they could use the materials; but why not use those to build another of their motherships?
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Old 2010-10-13, 20:31   Link #9235
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But did it actually shapeshift into it?
No idea, all the reviews of the movie say it was assimilated, and the trailers only show the giant ELS with the claws grabbing onto it.

But, since it was assimilated, just like everything else in the movie, it is highly possible they can morph into their own version of it.
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Old 2010-10-13, 20:34   Link #9236
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But, since it was assimilated, just like everything else in the movie, it is highly possible they can morph into their own version of it.
Then why didn't they?

P.S.: This is not trolling; this is employing the Socratic method to point out the sensible flaws of an argument.
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Old 2010-10-13, 20:39   Link #9237
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No idea, all the reviews of the movie say it was assimilated, and the trailers only show the giant ELS with the claws grabbing onto it.

But, since it was assimilated, just like everything else in the movie, it is highly possible they can morph into their own version of it.
It was assimilated. Metallic crystals can be seen assimilating Descartes.
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Old 2010-10-13, 20:44   Link #9238
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I seriously doubt the ELS couldn't replicate the Gadelaza.

They assimilated one of Jupiter's moons and turned it into a base, the ELS can assimilate and replicate anything.
Did it? The ELS planetoid we see was actually separated...or should say, given birth, by the ELS mother planet.

And I only recalled that Io and Ganymede were sucked into Jupiter, and it wasn't shown that ELS assimilated them.

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Old 2010-10-13, 21:35   Link #9239
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Did it? The ELS planetoid we see was actually separated...or should say, given birth, by the ELS mother planet.

And I only recalled that Io and Ganymedes were sucked into Jupiter, and it wasn't shown that ELS assimilated them.
It's 98.99% almost impossible, For all we know that Jupiter doesn't have the capability to suck anything into it and how the hell it can suck it's own star that's only rotating in it's orbit? =.=". ELS MUST have assimilated them because it's certainly impossible for Io and Ganymedes to be sucked in the inside of Jupiter. Don't confuse people for your false recalls, Most of those who watched the movie clearly said that ELS ASSIMILATED Io and Ganymedes. Otherwise, Your statement could be just based off from spoilers and got mixed up in your mind.
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Old 2010-10-13, 21:41   Link #9240
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Makes ya wonder why we didn't see any ELS 00s flying around.
Because the main control room (cockpit) is missing? As they need the full data (Including the operation data, System Controls Data) which we all know is installed only in the cockpit and that it requires the commands of the cockpit to function. It's more confusing how the hell ELS didn't managed to transform into a Gadelaza while they assimilated the WHOLE Gadelaza...Anyways, Don't forget that they also have "brains" which can be the reason why they didn't to turn into Gadelaza

Spoiler for "GN-XIII and Setsuna's Flag:


Spoiler for "GN-XIV:


Based from the GN-XII picture above, I'm wondering why it's recolored into "Gold"...And the fact that only Alejandro Corner is the only one that have customized Gold colored mobile suits...Makes me wonder if there's still followers of Alejandro Corner that still want to ruin the Kingdom of Azadistan.

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