2012-08-05, 20:44 | Link #9323 |
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Natsu can use lightning-fire any time. After have used it accidentally thanks to Laxus, he figured out how to lightning into his fire on his own. Remember, it's theoretically possible for any mage to learn any spell, and all the characters should be plenty capable of picking up new tricks, particularly ones that relate to their own power.
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2012-08-05, 22:24 | Link #9324 | ||
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Spoiler for Source of word, is from Flaremmm@OM. ty:
Lmk what you guys think about all this. Quote:
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2012-08-05, 22:37 | Link #9325 | |
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2012-08-05, 23:57 | Link #9326 |
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Hn, sure, I got time.
For the first comment on 'Raising One's Ability', that was most likely a generic term for it. Ultear most likely meant that their overall ability will be raised by unlocking the 2nd Origin. It's the same as working out. If you increase the muscle mass of your body, you raise it's ability to do more streneous work over a longer period of time. For Lucy, her boost came in the obvious fact that she could summon 2-3 at a time and even have them unsion raid their attacks. It's not something that we didn't think she could do before - she summoned all of her Stellar Spirits momentarily beforehand and she also casted that Stellar Spirit Ultimate Spell as well. I think the reason she can't do it now is because her mental limiters are in place whereas Hibiki probably overrode her limiters so that she could cast the spell against Angel. As for the 2nd comment on evolving the container... The closest thing I can think of is this: Say that you had a v4 engine in your car. It works fine and all. But one day you see your friend who has a v6 and you look at the engine size and it's not that much bigger than your v4's engine. Now, along comes Ultear and she says that your engine isn't utilizing the space well enough, so she'll use her Time Arc to not only make your v4 into a v6, but also expand your gas tank to compensate. Now, to do that realistically, you need to rip out the engine and rearrange some things under the hood as well as get a new fuel tank as well. Lots of taking apart stuff. Now you know why Ultear said it might be very painful...her spell was probably redesigning their bodies from the inside out, hence why it hurt so much. Could they have reached that on their own? Maybe in three months of hard training... The way that Ultear spoke of the Second Origin, it sounds as if it is still a relavtively new idea for the times that they are in. That and it's probably something that Mashima thought of just to give the characters their power-up before the GMG. So please take the Second Origin bit with a grain of salt, it probably won't be mentioned again after this tournament.
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2012-08-06, 01:42 | Link #9327 | |
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2012-08-06, 07:00 | Link #9328 | |
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Erza solo'ed an entire unknown dungeon with 99 monsters and one S-class boss. Yes, there were a lot of weak monsters but this was in a dungeon-type settting - it was their lair. She didn't know the particular layout, she didn't know the location of said monsters, she didn't know their particular capabilities, and thanks to her boast, she restricted herself to a one-time go. If you are familiar with the dungeon style games, where you have to solo an instance/a level full of monsters to get to the other side, then you'd know how hard it is to fight in a brand new location where you don't even have the benefit of a map or having the monsters drop extra HP or MP potions to help you on your way. Only those who are extremely good with their character, have very good gear, or done that level so many times, they know what to expect, can do something even close to repeating that feat. And the kicker is that the boss monster is a random encounter - meaning it can show up at any time. It wasn't the level of the monsters that was the tough part to overcome, it was the randomness of their order that was the tough part. In each room, she didn't know what group(ing) she were going to get. There was the element of being ambushed and walking into their traps that had to occur too. So, whoever it was that said Erza's feat was easily doable wasn't thinking of the other elements that went into her challenge and subsequent victory.
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2012-08-06, 09:00 | Link #9329 |
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Hey guys, I take back what i said, apparently, after Natsu getting his second origin released, TFD mode no longer strains him, which means Sting and Rogue are about to get their asses handed to them
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2012-08-07, 08:35 | Link #9330 | |
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2012-08-07, 20:47 | Link #9331 |
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its not surprising that TFD got boosted by second origin the real question i have is does it allow natsu to awaken Dragon Force easily like Sting and Rogue. But another question has to be asked is what is the deal with Lector and Frosh and is it as i suspect related to their original dragons
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2012-08-07, 20:56 | Link #9332 |
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When you put it that way, it becomes pretty clear that the contest itself was a poorly-designed one. As such, I don't think the fault lies with Erza, but rather with the organizers who came up with the match in the first place.
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2012-08-07, 21:06 | Link #9333 | |
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Separate theory do u guys think its possible that the knight guy is a part of Tartaros the final of the 3 massive dark guilds |
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2012-08-07, 23:45 | Link #9334 | |
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And it's not a question of giving them credit - Erza just went first. I can acknowledge that at least half of them could have gotten 51 monsters on their first try. Could Jura have beaten all the monsters? Pretty safe to say 'yes', he definitely could have.
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2012-08-08, 05:42 | Link #9335 | |
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One of the biggest reasons why Natsu gets a lot of hate is because a good deal of his supposed victories over powerful characters were brought about by some kind of deus ex machina. I'm particularly talking about his victories against Gerard (or however you spell his name), Zero, and possibly Hades. I'm not going to go in deeper since I'm not all that invested in the universe, but I will say that such developments are aesthetically unpleasing from a writing point of view.
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2012-08-09, 13:00 | Link #9337 |
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I was thinking and thought about something... What if Natsu at some point starts to reuse the power ups he gained?
The order of power ups: Etherion-> Flame of Rebuke-> God Fire-> Lightning. And the order in which he will start using them again: Lightning-> God Fire-> Flame of Rebuke-> Etherion. Natsu using Lightning is only the beginning!!! Mock my words but we WILL see Etherion Mode!!!! ahh... now that is out of my system.... but in all seriousness I do wish he will gain all those powers as I see it a waste for all of it to be a 1 time thing. |
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