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Why would you assume that Sunrise would be interested in animating the manga? From the start, I thought that it was fairly obvious that the creators fully intended to keep the manga and anime versions completely separate. They might animate My Hime Destiny at some point, but that's hardly certain since it looks like Sunrise has moved onto other similar projects - like Idolmaster Xenoglossia and Sora Kake Girl.
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2009-08-08, 10:59 | Link #922 |
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well the series has been very successful. My-Hime anime had good ratings and was popular.
it wouldnt hurt to just animate the manga and treated as a seperate universe or timeline. Xeno has already been finish from what i heard. Sora Kake Girl, i dont know the reception of the anime/manga by the fans but so far i couldnt get into it
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2009-08-08, 14:23 | Link #923 | |
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As for overall reception, I haven't heard of any attempt to further exploit either Xenoglossia or Sora Kake Girl, so it's likely that they are far from being as popular as My~Hime/Otome. However, I fully expect them to announce yet another new show using the same formula any time now - probably for a April 2010 release.
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2009-08-18, 09:52 | Link #926 |
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Just an opinion (in no particular order)
HiME: Mai/Kagutsuchi (No explanation necessary) Mikoto/Miroku (The one to survive nearly the entire series without ever summoning her child until late) Shizuru/Kiyohime (Duh!) Natsuki/Duran (Love makes my dog grow big) Fumi/Mashiro (People often forget about her) Otome: Mai (Pure firepower) Arika (Above a student, not yet an Otome: 学生以上、乙女未満) Nina (Still virgin, Otome certified) Haruka (A line from the OVA: didn't I tell you a stone that size no longer works!?) Shizuru (This is a no brainer. Anybody who disagree with me should be forced to dress as a baby) Historical Otome: Mikoto (A HiME in the world of Otome, the first & only of her kind, more powerful than even Rena herself) Fumi (The first Otome. Now living dead) Rena (History's strongest, according to trailer. Direct heiress to the Sayers corporation) - Tak
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2009-08-22, 04:06 | Link #927 |
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very interesting, Mikoto defeated Mai and was said to be stronger in the anime versions of Mai Hime and Mai Otome.
In the Manga, she does become a queen but is defeated by Natsuki and her Hime. Mai's brother though in the manga was more powerful than the Queens themselves that serve him. I was reading Mai's profile for the My Otome anime series in Wiki, and mentioned that Shizuru was the 1# Pearl at the time when Mai was a Coral, and she was nearly undefeated well into her Pearl Year. I think they were talking about Shizuru for the undefeated section. Shizuru was consider the strongest Otome in the anime, , manga version she wasnt so powerful. in the end of the anime of my Otome, Nina and Akira were quite powerful. I believe Akira recieve a more powerful version of her suit i dont know much about the Historical Otome, never heard that before. also on this page, http://www.onemanga.com/Mai-Otome/37/11/ it mentions of Dark Mai remembering Tate when he stood up. I know Sergay mentioned that she burn world in 7 days though it looks like Tate was somehow responsible.
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Mikoto is a HiME in Mai Otome, and the only one of her kind, rendering her some sort of semi-deity. Since robes can be considered as imitated technology, they were inferior to a true HiME's power. Mai, not being a HiME, admitted that she cannot defeat Mikoto, much to Natsuki's surprise (thus hinting Mai's fighting ability, as there was no one in the academy Mai could not defeat). Quote:
It had nothing to do with Shizuru's combat abilities as the paragraph was talking about Mai helping Natsuki to become Shizuru's attendant. This was an event described in the drama CD. Shizuru, was #1 for her year (Pearl). Mai, being one year younger, was #1 for her year (Coral). The two never competed, but Mai would remain undefeated throughout her Pearl career. OTOH, in the Mai Otome game, Rena complimented Mai's physical prowess and said she was exceptional due to her ability to inherit her gem, while she complimented Shizuru's cultured demeanor (but not her martial arts). Moreover, the gems should be a hint. Mai inherited the fire stirring ruby, a pure, front line type specifically for combat (and wanton destruction). In the official file, Shizuru is described as the stereotypical reflection of the Otome, since Otome are expected to be graceful, elegant, cultured and well mannered. In the official file, Mai is described to be exceptional in her strength and some consider her to be invincible. Also check out vol. 8 of the Otome specials and note how she is described by Natsuki. Quote:
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Fumi was the first Otome who created the entire Otome system and all robes originated from her. Rena Sayers is Arika's mother and heiress of the Sayers corporation, which provided the technologies behind the robes. - Tak
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whoa there, i am just trying to find answers here.
when Mai thought Mikoto killed her brother. she started attacking Mikoto, in the end of that battle, Mai lost to Mikoto. Mikoto was about to kill Mai if it wasnt for Natsuki coming in end telling Mikoto that she loved Mai. Mai was in battle mode as well with her child and was serious as hell. Mikoto was never defeated as a Hime in the anime, that is why we never found out who her closest precious person would be though it looks to be Mai or Reito. in the manga Mai Hime, Mikoto was the strongest Hime, this was stated by Mai herself. Quote:
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well i was undecided by it. since it mentioned that Shizuru was the number #1 Pearl and was highly contested for that position. Shizuru was the last name mention when talking about the Pearl #1. I am assuming that they were talking about Shizuru in that little short sentence. in the official file, is that from the game? well in Shizuru's profile, it was mentioned that she was the strongest Otome in the world. was it mentioned anywhere in the anime where Mai went undefeated? She is one of the Five Columns (#3 in the order): the strongest Otome in the world who serve not an individual master but Garderobe itself. Quote:
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Moreover, although we found out that Tate was Mai's most important person, note the fact that even after Tate had died because Shiho was defeated, Mai still retained her powers. This tells me that even though Tate was Mai's most important person, Mai no longer needs an important person to be physically around in order to summon her powers. Quote:
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Anyway, Mai was chosen to be one of the Five Columns as well, and she was #1 in the order. That position was later transferred to Sara Gallagher, obviously because Mai mysteriously disappeared. On a side note, Sara served under Mai as her room orderly when Mai was a Pearl. Of course, it doesn't help that Mai became a freelance Otome, carrying Mikoto around her as portable Otome battery. Quote:
But just to give you an example, Shuzuru may be #1 in her generation, but she can only barely defeat Haruka in a fight, who was #2 (while it is presumed the latter sometimes gained an upper hand). Mai and Natsuki were #1 & #2 in their generation, but the disparity of their strength is pretty wide. Apparently, Mai can beat Natsuki to a pulp without a scratch, while Natsuki and Shizuru are considered to be relatively equal in terms of power. If you have not gotten other sources, it was implied by Natsuki during her encounter with Mai in the valley. Note that she was very, and I mean very surprised to hear that Mai could not defeat Mikoto even in her robe. This is implying that Mai is already quite powerful even without her robe. But not being able to beat Mikoto even in Mai's transformed state? Something like that was unheard of. Also note, Mai & Arika's gem, the Fire Stirring Ruby & Blue Sky Sapphire are second only to the Pure White Diamond in terms of durability. Based on physical properties, ruby and sapphire are directly related, with Sapphire consisting of all colors but red, and Ruby consisting only of the color red. This may be implying that they are both equal in power. Rena Sayers was the heiress of the Sayers Corporation, the organization that produced the technologies behind the Otome robes as well as Miyu and her line of cybernetic soldiers. By the time of Otome, Miyu became the only one to survive amongst her sister models. Every Otome in the world is either bond to a contract or Garderobe itself. Meaning they all have access to the system only through a medium. The medium then channels power directly from an artificial star hovering above the Otome world. Not even Fumi was free from that process, but Rena did not have to go through a medium as shown in Sifr episode 3. She had direct access to the satellite, and can go a level beyond every Otome in her Blue Sky Sapphire (meaning she has two levels of transformation). Moreover, it was shown as early as the first episode of Sifr that she had a tendency to break every gem she was equipped with, because none of them were able to endure her powers and tend to overload. The Blue Sky Sapphire was a super meister gem and the only one capable of enduring Rena's full powers. During the final parts of Sifr episode 3, she single handedly defeated 4 of the Column level Otome in less than a minute. In addition, she was the only Otome to ever bear a mark similar to HiMEs, but she was no HiME. Though this may imply that she may be the most successful replica. At the end of Zwei, a brief trailer for Sifr played, you will note that Rena was described as the history's strongest Otome by the trailer itself. Small wonder, she would later be taken to produce black gems for Tomoe & co. No, I wouldn't take her, or her comments lightly. - Tak (Obviously, having Mai debuting early on would be cheating)
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okay, bro, i am not going to argue much which you since you have a vast knowledge of the subject and i can get answers and sources from you and decided for my own after i have all the info.
however there is some points that you made that i will debate with you which is on the Mai vs Mikoto battle in the anime and a couple of others. it seems that each world in anime and manga, some of the characters are stronger than the other, the roles are switch. so at least it was mentioned that Rena was the strongest Otome there in the anime. Quote:
it was to show that she lost to Mikoto. Shizuru's was there to stop the fight. it wasnt setup to be Mai vs Mikoto and Shizune. not only did she stop Mai's child but also saved Mai and Natsuki from Mikoto first. Mikoto uses Miroku for her tombstone-style attack at Mai, Natsuki and Duran. Just before the sharpened crystal pillars reaches and impales them, Shizuru send her child Octupus to destroy the crystal pillars and then take out Mai's child. Before Shizuru intervene, Mai had her child against Mikoto. Mikoto had no problems dodging the attacks while in confused state and not in a power up blood lusted state. While she became blood lusted, she was able to reach and strike Mai and Natsuki had to intervene to repel a second attack. after Shizuru did her best to stop the fight, Mikoto and Mai were on more even grounds and Mai was about to get killed. I dont see any other way of Mai losing this battle to Mikoto despite getting help from Natsuki and Shizuru trying to stop the both of them. Quote:
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3 out of 4 of the anime/mangas Mikoto is declared stronger than Mai or has shown more battle skills. only the Mai Otome manga is where Mai would of been stronger than Mikoto there at least. though i have to say even declare the strongest Hime there in the manga, she was defeated by Tate as was shown by male Mashiro who i think in the My Otome Manga became the strongest character after all the girls gave him their powers since he now posses the diamond. Quote:
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bro can you give all the links or sources for the info that you are getting this? i would really like to have it to get more info. where they all located in the drama cds? Quote:
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where was it mentioned that Natsuki and Shizuru are equal in terms of power bro can you give all the links or sources for the info that you are getting this? i would really like to have it to get more info. where they all located in the drama cds? well Mai was the number #1 Pearl before she left. still i think her being suprise that she could not defeat Mikoto at all in her strongest state after knowing her as the number #1. since Arika is the star of the show, i guess i can consider her the more powerful fighter due to plot. what about Nina's Ultimate Dark Gem? where is it equal to the Pure White Diamond? thanks on the Rena information.[/QUOTE] You all of this really BS and I tell you, because this franchise has just been a complete waste and lot of excuses from the day when Mai HiME ended, the series would have continued from the first place, I just don't see how this is part of the franchise and I told it numerous times that this series would have continued about on the fallout of the Carnival and to an new story ahead. I already would love it from the end. Now we have this messes instead of some sequels. I just a little upset, If this franchise ends this quickly. Because their alot of loose ends to this saga, just hoping it becomes thier own franchise sooner or later. Because this could be the new age of the magical girl and sentai show till the end. Hoping this rewatch of Mai HiME will be a sequel on the works, showing the fanbase is really strong and care for this series. Possibly new fans joined the fray as well and more ShizNat fans. Mai-HiME will be one of the best Shounen Magical Girl of the new generation. Forget Otome, HiME saga continues.
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She was not left Open since she was already being attacked by Mikoto, it was made more even now since the Child was taken out of the picture. Both fighters had their element powers and no Child. Mai already saw Mikoto and yelled her name. It is not like her back was turn and didnt see Mikoto coming. Mai's face was in battle mode still and lost. She got sent back and was about to get killed most likely by Mikoto before Shizuru stop her. It was an uneven fight at the start against Mikoto since 3 of her attacks were blocked by Shizuru and Natsuki (the last one getting to her head and thinking about Mai) Chaotic? and you mention the last episode? I dont know if you can consider that even a fight with all what was going on between them. anyway, I will respond to the rest of your post some other time. Right now i have to complete some projects. After that I will return, so be prepared!
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You also have to note that Mai attacked Mikoto first with the latter just standing still. Mikoto thought she dodged Mai's attacks when in fact Mai was simply unconsciously missing her aim. Afterward, Natsuki managed to shoot Mikoto's sword off as Mai gained control of herself. The final part would have Mai firing a blast against a defenseless Mikoto. The latter survived because she was saved at the last moment. If you can tell me with a straight face that chaotic chain of events can be considered a fair fight, then we will have to agree to disagree and just leave it at that. - Tak
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i dont have time to respond to all of your posts, blast this business i have.
i still disagree with everything we are debating. i havent forgotten about this conversation Tak. I will return to debate with you but it will have to wait for the moment.
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Mai Hime is licensed. And you should probably delete your message just in case. Otherwise a moderator would assume that you are encouraging illegal access to a licensed product. This is taken from Animesuki forum rules: http://forums.animesuki.com/faq.php?...#faq_rules_1_1 1.1 Unlicensed Anime or Manga only AnimeSuki does not wish to be associated with unlawful and ethically unacceptable activities (e.g. piracy). For this reason all Messages requesting, providing, or otherwise discussing information about the use of illegally obtained media, or any service that aids in the illegal acquisition of such media, is expressly forbidden. The following is a list of media considered "banned" from The Forum because its acquisition is always considered illegal and unethical: --Lone Wolf 一匹狼 |
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well i meant you can buy it from the internet or got to official sites and see episodes or clips, etc.
but just to be in the safe side, i will do it. anyway, you did quote me. so remove my quote from your post.
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