Syosetsuka ni Narou Discussion Thread

[charasu]

i'm too influenced from kyokai senjou no horizon world building for this flying city talk.
there is floating island here and there, giantass flying cargo+city ship, reglar trade route, politic jargon and war. so it's possible

[Garn]

As always "Depends"

-Of the existence and rarity of floating masses in which to build
-Of the characteristics of these floating masses such as their extension
-From whether these floating masses are static or can be moved artificially or that they are at the mercy of special currents
-From the technology, magic or natural methods that are used in said world
-That if there is already the technology/magic to create artificially floating masses
-If there are natural means to create them
-That if the thing that makes it float is something natural or artificial

Establishing on a floating island will always be a good idea when you have the means to travel to it, regardless of whether it is for civ or military use.
They are generally built in floating masses that do not need maintenance or expenses to keep them afloat.
Even these are used mostly for the leading classes and upper social classes.
They are almost always leading cities or insignia fortresses
When there are towns or nothing it is because in that world it is either one of floating masses and below a void or the floating islands are several of multiple types and flavors

But in the end the answer is yes

[wuhugm]

Stop this [making flying city] discussion at once
Just like in Smartphone, it's not the MC who makes it so nobody cares

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

Stop this [making flying city] discussion at once
Just like in Smartphone, it's not the MC who makes it so nobody cares

Mc makes or operates them in the novels I read,including JP ones.Even if the feasibility of creation is handwaved away, it is worthwhile to discuss the practicality of owning and operating a floating city/castle.

[wuhugm]

^Don't lie to me!
JP MC only found/given it and operates it, never made it
I know one guy who makes Spaceships and Fleets, but at that point he's basically a God, so making 1 or 1000 flying city is trivial

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^Don't lie to me!
JP MC only found/given it and operates it, never made it
I know one guy who makes Spaceships and Fleets, but at that point he's basically a God, so making 1 or 1000 flying city is trivial

I said make or operate.

Even if you are given one, you still have to think about how to run it properly,pay for maintenance and how to attract enough people to make it into a ‘city’ instead of a giant farm.

[wuhugm]

^Give me a break

JP MCs are bocchi bastard

That flying city will only house MC, his harem, and automatons

Other people? What is that? Is it delicious?

[dragon1412]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^Give me a break

JP MCs are bocchi bastard

That flying city will only house MC, his harem, and automatons

Other people? What is that? Is it delicious?

Ehhhhh, I'd actually argue that this is smarter consider the city is self sufficient enough, adding people are basically asking for more trouble since well, most of the time trouble are brewed up by people. If the city isn't self sufficient, that adding is a must since workforce+trade+etc.... But if the city is self sufficient, then only issues is loneliness so it better to cherry picked those who get in.

Switching from this as you want, if you guys make a MC that is not OP, what kind of ability would you guy give him, remember, not OP, may be stronger than the average guys, but complete outclass the world is not considered.

[wuhugm]

^As in, ability that is not reliant on MC's initial strength and intelligence?
Ability that can be used by nearly everyone?

If the world has RPG system, then double stats/skill points for each level up
If no system then Excellent Aptitude/Talents for all activities

[dragon1412]

^ Nah, the ability can be unique, as long as it doesn't break the powerscale or outright making MC impossible to defeat.

I don't know, Execellent aptitude/talents or double stats seem wayy too much like a cheat. It is a growth cheat, but depend on settings, double the stats can mean just stronger than most to all the way break the balance

[wuhugm]

^Well unique thing like Alchemy requires one to have education in modern science to use it well

For normal growth rate
Then escape ability might be nice
Like, can escape from any situation 3 times a day or something

Less OP than save/load ability at least

[Ruki0089]

Save and Load ability is great if user actually doing some experiments with it. But most authors using that theme are pussies

[wuhugm]

^Like raeping lolis?

[Garn]

Something similar to Dark Souls would be interesting but a little more complex

-Revirir but using as sacrifice the "maximum potential"
-Reviving does not affect the time, revives in the last place established
-Recovering the "maximum potential" is destroying the origin of death without dying
-The above is not cumulative, there cannot be more than 1 instance and only the last sacrifice is recovered
-Expanding the "potential" is defeating more powerful creatures and without dying
-In case of dying the sacrifice is according to the gain (it can be instant death if this exceeds the current potential)

[wuhugm]

^MC is operating in too different way than others...

In GTA, once in a while, I saved the game and go on murder spree before loading the save to undo everything
If someone has that ability, it's possible that someone will do the same or worse, because everything can be undone
At least use it to try confessing to heroines

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^MC is operating in too different way than others...

In GTA, once in a while, I saved the game and go on murder spree before loading the save to undo everything
If someone has that ability, it's possible that someone will do the same or worse, because everything can be undone
At least use it to try confessing to heroines

Maybe it’s like UQ Holder/Re:Zero where ‘loading’ the save is difficult. In both of those series, you can only load the save if you die. It’s definitely not an enjoyable experience to slit your own throat for the sake of confessing to the heroines.

Originally Posted by dragon1412

Ehhhhh, I'd actually argue that this is smarter consider the city is self sufficient enough, adding people are basically asking for more trouble since well, most of the time trouble are brewed up by people. If the city isn't self sufficient, that adding is a must since workforce+trade+etc.... But if the city is self sufficient, then only issues is loneliness so it better to cherry picked those who get in.

Switching from this as you want, if you guys make a MC that is not OP, what kind of ability would you guy give him, remember, not OP, may be stronger than the average guys, but complete outclass the world is not considered.

Super intelligence or some kind of learning ability is suffice.How the MC interact with circumstances in an intelligent manner is more interesting than how he just steamrolls problems with brute strength.

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^Give me a break

JP MCs are bocchi bastard

That flying city will only house MC, his harem, and automatons

Other people? What is that? Is it delicious?

Was reading a JP novel the other day where the MC’s flying castle became a refugee camp for Demi-humans(males and females). The Demi-humans operates the farms in the castle.

[wuhugm]

^[I Want To Play Happily Because I Got The Heavenly Castle], right?
I read that too
The demihumans are beggars that got sheltered in that castle
As in, the castle doesn't need them to function at all
MC's robots and weird techs are perfectly sufficient to maintain that castle

Yea, most save/load abilities not that easy to use
So can't be used like in game
Pity, I want to see an MC drowning in debauchery like in hentai doujin, but since those crimes undone, he is viewed as super saint

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^[I Want To Play Happily Because I Got The Heavenly Castle], right?
I read that too
The demihumans are beggars that got sheltered in that castle
As in, the castle doesn't need them to function at all
MC's robots and weird techs are perfectly sufficient to maintain that castle

Yea, most save/load abilities not that easy to use
So can't be used like in game
Pity, I want to see an MC drowning in debauchery like in hentai doujin, but since those crimes undone, he is viewed as super saint

Yes,but it proved the point that MCs with flying castles/cities are not necessarily bocchis.It also drove the point that JP novelists are total walk outs when it comes to explaining logistics.

[wuhugm]

^Some of them not bocchis yea
Like that one, [Tou no Kanri o Shite Miyou/Let's Manage The Tower]
Both that and the Flying Castle have the MC found these Megastructures and have the MC manages it

Also have the same problem that [Other People Doesn't Matter] [The Tower/Castle Can Function Without You so Be Grateful Plebs]
Flying Castle Management fully rely on Robots
Tower Management fully rely on Summoned People

[Ruki0089]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^MC is operating in too different way than others...

In GTA, once in a while, I saved the game and go on murder spree before loading the save to undo everything
If someone has that ability, it's possible that someone will do the same or worse, because everything can be undone
At least use it to try confessing to heroines

There you got answer for save and load ability
They could be anything and do anything they want but they still talking about moral BS.
Just looked at MC from NEET received dating system.
He is OP but he's like what? A wimp?