Zero no Tsukaima Novels Discussion Thread

[gabbytay]

Originally Posted by crystalalien87

i hope this isnt a off topic kind of question but are all the translators able to read japanese? or do they use a translator program?

the preview is a translator(or speed translation) the links are real/accurate translation.

[Darknemo2000]

Actually the preview links at first were for machine translators, yet the previews done by me are somewhat different as I do know Japanese and can translate simple sentences by my own, I usually still rely on dictionaries and machine translations when it comes to harder sentences, but again I use two machine translators and 8 dictionaries while other machine translators used only one or two at most.. Mostly google transl. or babelfish, both of which are utter crap.

Free online translation tools are bad and they should not be used even for the previews...never.

The previews are right now a speedy translation but as close to real translations as possible.

Not all B-T translators are japanese ones - a lot are chinese ones and there is a risk that chinese version would be missing few sentences (it sometimes does) and can sometimes be inaccurate.

[Vertiful]

Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

Actually the preview links at first were for machine translators, yet the previews done by me are somewhat different as I do know Japanese and can translate simple sentences by my own, I usually still rely on dictionaries and machine translations when it comes to harder sentences, but again I use two machine translators and 8 dictionaries while other machine translators used only one or two at most.. Mostly google transl. or babelfish, both of which are utter crap.

Free online translation tools are bad and they should not be used even for the previews...never.

I really agree. I've seen one of the online translator at work once...Not a single sentense had the right meaning...

[Angrypokstick]

atlas generally do a better job than any online translator but thats normally after hours of tinkering with its dictionary and grammar database.

By the way i would love to help bakatsuki with the translation except i ve been so busy these days. but i might have some free time in the future during the summer so if you guys need a new translator or editor i can probably help. I m a chinese by birth but i have a bit of japanese thanks to my parents and the fact i was born in japan. so i will probably need to work off chinese copies of whatever it needs to be translated since i can understand those better.

[Vertiful]

Originally Posted by Angrypokstick

atlas generally do a better job than any online translator but thats normally after hours of tinkering with its dictionary and grammar database.

By the way i would love to help bakatsuki with the translation except i ve been so busy these days. but i might have some free time in the future during the summer so if you guys need a new translator or editor i can probably help. I m a chinese by birth but i have a bit of japanese thanks to my parents and the fact i was born in japan. so i will probably need to work off chinese copies of whatever it needs to be translated since i can understand those better.

*sob* nakama~~~
I was born in China but I grew up in Japan
I too should be able to start translating during the summer! 4 more days of school left!

[Angrypokstick]

Originally Posted by Vertiful

*sob* nakama~~~
I was born in China but I grew up in Japan
I too should be able to start translating during the summer! 4 more days of school left!

lol,
our situation were reversed, i was born in japan and grew up in china.

[TigerII]

I was born on an indian reservation and grew up on an indian reservation..lol. I mean indian as Native American, not Indian as in India...

[Vertiful]

Originally Posted by TigerII

I was born on an indian reservation and grew up on an indian reservation..lol. I mean indian as Native American, not Indian as in India...

Does that mean you are an indian?

[Angrypokstick]

in canada they are called aboriginals.

[TigerII]

Lol Cherokee Indian.

[crystalalien87]

lol African American

[Angrypokstick]

Originally Posted by crystalalien87

lol African American

that has nothing to do with native Indians they are completely different people and i know people that would take offense of that. African Americans they are as their name imply- are from Africa and the Indians we are talking about are the people native to North America before European colonization.

[crystalalien87]

i just saw everybody else posting what they were so i simple put down what i am.... jeez calm down buddy thats what the "lol" was for... No intention to hurt anybody

[Angrypokstick]

nah, i wasn't pissed i just pointed out that you should have read what we were talking about.

[Darknemo2000]

And right now this discussion is obviously very related to ZnT novels...

[Nvis]

Question:

Spoiler:

Colbert is still alive? How?

[gugumomu]

Originally Posted by Nvis

Question:

Spoiler:

Colbert is still alive? How?

Spoiler for Colberts death:

he never died in the first place. he was just badly injured and lost conscience. Kirche pretended he was dead so that ... what was her name again? wouldnt continue with her intention to kill Colbert

[crystalalien87]

Spoiler for Show vs Novel?:

Well then that scene when saito cries on louise shoulder in the show doesn't happen in the manga after colbert died? Will colberts death make that big of a deal in the 3rd season? even thought he survived in the novel...

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by crystalalien87

Spoiler for Show vs Novel?:

Well then that scene when saito cries on louise shoulder in the show doesn't happen in the manga after colbert died? Will colberts death make that big of a deal in the 3rd season? even thought he survived in the novel...

Why are we using spoiler tags anyways...?

Saito and Louise, in the novel at this moment, are not even in the academy.
The way Colbert gets injured and the whole fight against that pyromaniac is different too.
Maybe he'll come back in the 3rd season. If he stays dead, they simply have to change stuff and make things alright.

[Angrypokstick]

they need colbert alive for a 3rd season. Too many things won't make sense or won't even take place if he stayed "dead".