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No Mihawk was correct "Two conflicting groups of equal power having a roundtable meeting seems to be entirely meaningless". Mihawk is not the type of man who would say things that were not meant to be said. That quote right their was the truth. I doubt Oda would not have Mihawk say that for no reason at all. Like when Luffy told Ener himself "that their are many stronger men in the seas than you". (It's the truth) |
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2006-02-01, 20:27 | Link #82 | |
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2006-02-01, 20:45 | Link #83 | |
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2006-02-03, 03:51 | Link #86 |
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The opinion no talking back is sign of weakness is funny indeed. Then, CP9's leader is strongest in his organization, because he has the last word in the argument. Then, there is no need to fight. All they have to do is talking. Luffy can win 3 admirals instantly.
My speculation is that strongest guy is silver fox. He has best crew(the best sailors from all other crews), and they are all loyal to him. It meant he has the great leadership. His time slowing power is almost like time freezing. Plus he has good punch. He can own all opponents easily. What can his opponents when they can barely move. His weakness is he has ego problem, and it gives his opponents chance to beat him. The second strongest guy would be that thunder guy. He can whip out entire world with thunder strike. Although the rubber man is immune to his thunder, he still causes the great damage to the rubber man. His thunder power is like telekinesis. It can move metals(ship, spike). It's very convenient when traveling. The third strongest guys would be the sand pirate. Of course, there are other people who are stronger. However, few of them have proven their power in combat. So, other guys' power are intangible. The discussion of intangible will lead no where. The sand pirate is strong because he can destroy the country by desert storm. Not even Navy has such destructive power. He can dehydrate his opponents. He also uses poison in combat. It makes him hard to ignore. The ice admiral would be #4. He can feeze the ocean. If Ace the fireuser has to fight him, he needs greater power. To stand the chance to be evenly match, the fireuser needs to cause the ocean boiled at least. The #5 is Luffy. He's strong because he always make dashing come back. |
2006-02-03, 13:22 | Link #87 | |
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You never heard of Whitebeard, Ace, and the three supreme vice admirals have you along with Sengoku? Your speculation is a bit outdated and obsolete.
Especially when the fox guy's ability is dodgeable and that his punch is pretty average overall. EDIT: This guy would get pwned by any member of CP9 much less Enel, the higher ups of the Marines, and who knows what the unseen members of Shikibuchai are capable of. The weakest member of CP9 would take out Foxy in less than 5 minutes. And Mihawk as well. Quote:
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2006-02-03, 14:03 | Link #88 |
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Yeah Neodrag I agree with you it is obvious GundamZZ has never heard of any of those characters you just mentioned. We all know Whitebeard is the Strongest but we have yet to see all the Shichibukai most importantly Mihawk, Red Haired Shanks, hell Blackbeard could be among the elite. We have to wait for their powers to be revealed.
I wishsome people would stop saying that Ener is one of the strongest characters ever in One Piece. Luffy said it himeself "Their are many more powerful men in the Seas than Ener". Episode 183 where Ener merged Luffy's arm with the Golden ball. |
2006-02-03, 14:08 | Link #89 |
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He may not be the hardest, but eating an elemental fruit pretty much confers instant badass status on people. Everyone else we've seen with one is up there in the lists - Ace, Aokiji - and if Luffy wasn't a non-conductor, he'd be screwed.
Yes, I know it's an old argument, but seeing as no-one but Luffy and other elemental users can attack him, I'd say he's pretty hard. |
2006-02-03, 14:39 | Link #90 | |
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2006-02-03, 15:03 | Link #91 | |
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Chapter 282 when Enel goes on about how nobody in the entire world can oppose him. |
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2006-02-03, 15:54 | Link #92 | |
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Here is the link to that Scene Neodrag. http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav...o&PhotoID=5737 |
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2006-02-03, 16:01 | Link #93 |
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I'm sorry but Luffy saying that there are a lot more monstrous individuals than Enel is stating an obvious rather than commenting that Enel's level of ability is simply that of a daily average. It remains that not that many individuals in Blue Sea have Enel's level of power. And Luffy has never even met Dragon. And that etc. at the end isn't needed since Luffy never encountered Aokiji and those after till after the end of the Skypiea arc.
Thanks for the link though. |
2006-02-03, 16:21 | Link #94 | |
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That Quote says it all. Luffy could not have said it better. |
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2006-02-03, 16:50 | Link #95 |
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Alright, If you are made of lightning swords will not work. Unless they have some special abilities we haven't seen yet, Mihawk and Shanks will lose, Ace, Smoker and Crocodile (Aokiji maybe) will draw and we don't know enough about Whitebeard and Sengoku's powers to judge. Doflamingo would probably win 1-on-1 unless ambushed, and Aokiji would fare better than most, but the simple fact that he is an elemental Fruit user means Ener is REALLY powerful, even in the Blue Seas.
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2006-02-03, 17:46 | Link #96 | |
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Shanks and Mihawk will definetly beat Ener with no problem. Shanks and Mihawk are Swordsman above Zoro and Zoro himself will kill Ener one on one. Have you guys ever seen Zoro cut "Steel and the Breath of All Things". Enough said. Shanks and Mihawk are Arguably (behind Whitebeard) one of the most powerful pirates in the seas. |
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You don't have to name the characters like the The Three Supreme Vice Admirals, Sengoku, Whitebeard, and Donflamingo since he has never encountered them. His statement at the time of the Skypiea arc wouldn't involve these individuals being on his mind at the moment. Quote:
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The only reason Luffy beat Ener is the non-conductivity of his body. Whitebeard must have some logia-defense beyond personality, otherwise Ace would be in charge. Maybe Shanks and Mihawk have something similar. We don't know. Ener is still really damn hard, and you'll have to do a better job of convincing me otherwise than you've done so far. |
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