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Perfect 10 | 6 | 12.24% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 6 | 12.24% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 13 | 26.53% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 14 | 28.57% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 7 | 14.29% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 2.04% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 2.04% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 2.04% | |
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2014-05-25, 07:43 | Link #81 |
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To sum this ep. up: a little fanservice, a little soccer fun, MC showing his godlike skills.
And we got two new pairings, Erika x Miki and Moe girl x Taurus Guns ehh Silver. The author shouldve added more amazing people or focus on the talents on secondary chars, we already know how awesome he is, please let there be someone whos equal or a little below him. About the Infodump I really dont think this LN is really suited to be animated since it has too many infos, a game wouldve been better but I still enjoy it though mainly for the second chars though. Hope Mahouzaku will appear next ep. |
2014-05-25, 09:30 | Link #84 | |
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2014-05-25, 09:32 | Link #85 | |
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2014-05-25, 09:51 | Link #86 |
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Not to mention the backlash it would have on the student. You will still be called a Weed like you're in Course 2, and you now have to pick up the pace to compete with Course 1s.
If anything, a sudden shift to Course 1 would probably be a massive pain for any Course 2. Unless you're Tatsuya, of course.
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2014-05-25, 10:07 | Link #87 |
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Well, then, any value course 2 students would have as spare or replacement for course 1 students would be gone by the time they are in 2nd year. Then what's the use of course 2 students being spare parts in 2nd and 3rd year? Wouldn't they and the whole society be better served by having them take a track totally different from course 1 students? I still find it very inefficient to have 50% of student population be spare parts for the other 50% when less than 1/3 of that 50% actually can function as spare parts, and even that be very hard by the time they are in 2nd half of the first year, given all I was told so far.
Also, if 2nd year course 2 students are in such a different track, wouldn't the school administration be better served by having different divisions and labels for such a different students? Most of the schools in Asia usually gives different designation for students headed to different career path. Also, according to what I have seen so far in the anime, how come any 2nd year course 2 students we saw seems to act as if they will go into same career path as course 1 students?
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2014-05-25, 11:07 | Link #88 |
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Well 9SC arc is finally here. Since the nature of a competition involves more people this opens up more opportunities for the side characters to shine, I can see more people getting to understand and enjoy the cast better.
The novel had more space to cover events and spread them out but the anime's coverage of this episode doesn't help in toning down Tatsuya's exposure. He is 'overspecced' from what we have been shown so far and it's presented truthfully enough that any flak this draws is rightfully deserved.
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P.S. wow, I didn't know many people already answered these. P.S.2 She did let her hair grew. You didn't notice?
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2014-05-25, 13:11 | Link #91 | |
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Because NGNL is easier to understand and the typical fan service ecchi anime that is popular in Japan?And I have nothing against those type of series and do enjoy some of them But I don't think NGNL will ever reach Mahouka's overall LN sales. Last edited by zerozeronine; 2014-05-25 at 13:12. Reason: merged post |
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2014-05-25, 13:13 | Link #92 | |
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The system is that only 200 of the brightest and most magically talented are accepted at First High each year. They are scored based on General subjects, magic subjects and Magic power. The 100 highest scoring entrants are personally guided by the very limited number of magic teachers available, while the remaining 100 do computer based learning of the exact same curriculum without personal guidance. It was mentioned in Mayumi's speech that they cover the same material. The actual divide between the 2 courses could be only half a point to several hundred points, it doesn't matter though. The top 100, however bad or good the lowest scorers are, get into Course 1. Due to this thoroughly talent-driven and harshly competence-oriented government magic system, accidents often occur which might cause psychological trauma that makes some lose their magic for life. This is where that course 2 student who might have originally lost out by 0.5 of a point or by 100 points, gets their chance for personal magic guidance. Eitherway, as long as the course 2 students learn as much as they can and train and hone their magic skills, they can still aim to graduate in the top. Likewise, if any course 1 student slacks off they can expect to be trampled over by those below eagerly fighting to make it to the top. The system is stated to be set this way to focus on nurturing the most talented using the very limited teaching resources they have. They only care about results and want the best professional magic technicians(magicians) ASAP. The school heads don't care about blooms and weeds. |
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2014-05-25, 14:12 | Link #93 | |
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2014-05-25, 14:33 | Link #94 | |
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1. If they they study the same material and their gap isn't big, AND does not GROW bigger as they advance in years, then I still don't see how some of the course 2 student can't be good enough in certain limited disciplines like CAD engineer, since engineering was not a measure used in differentiating course 1 and 2. In the series, course 2 students are also doing magic, often, and in many forms, so I have trouble accepting that they don't know magic good enough to do well in theoretical aspects. After all, in real world, NASA engineers usually are not astronauts. 2. If the magic ability difference is such that it will impede them in related fields like theory and engineering, then I don't see how course 2 students can keep up with course 1 students thus be able to handle the same material and able to step in as replacements by the time they are at 2nd year or beyond. I have been to not so famous universities AND very prestigious universities, and there are many noticeable difference in materials covered by the senior ( = 4th ) year, to the degree I expect 4th year from not so famous university to take at least 1 year to catch up to what 4th year students are doing in famous universities. 3. If their are schools that have different specializations, I really wonder why the higher ups who seem to control so many things didn't assign them to school system that suits them better.
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2014-05-25, 14:43 | Link #95 |
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The thing to remember about Mahouka is the application process is not perfect; it's not meant to be in story. It measures very specific things that ... are important, yes, but cannot measure everything. Example I can use now that the anime's gotten past this point in the LN: in the past, they measured you based on your psion count, because CADs were rough and you used a lot more psions. Now, they don't, and they instead measure you based on your speed with a CAD. Not everything is measured properly, like Tatsuya's ability to use 'multiple variables' he mentions after his fight with Hattori. It won't measure Ancient Magic users well either, to a degree. It's like any standardized testing: it only tests what the test actually measures, not total value. There are LOT of people who will be in Course 2 who are actually pretty badass in their own way, but not in the way the tests measure. See: Erika, who is a total kenjutsu badass as we saw earlier. Or Leo, who can do pretty buff spells of his own (Note: when they crashed into the building, and Leo yelled PANZER? He was /fortifying the whole vehicle/ so it wouldn't break.)
The tests are there to measure people the school system sees as the most broadly useful and competent - basically talented generalists rather than highly specialized sorts like Erika and Leo. As for other Course 2 students, it is true that they are often hampered, but this isn't an absolute rule, no. It's more like ... if you are having trouble with practicals, you likely don't understand the theory due to various reasons. This isn't an overriding thing. The thing to note is those students were marked by a combination of 'This isn't how it's done' traditionalism and lingering discontent over Tatsuya's place. 'The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.' is an actual Japanese proverb for a reason. Disagree with it if you want (I do) but it makes sense considering their culture. That's the REAL reason for their arguing. As for why they don't make them attend another, each school is a private school basically, it's a very Japanese system. They can't make you attend another. You apply for a school, you're judged. You can apply for multiple schools if you want. But they can't say 'No, you can't go here' if your marks qualify.
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2014-05-25, 14:44 | Link #96 |
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Tbh this whole situation has been brought up by a lot of people already. Fans here will try to tell you stuff like, "it's in the future so you shouldn't bring up NASA" "it makes sense even Tatsuya says so" "it makes sense for Japanese culture" (even if there's no such actual Japanese example to be found) etc. My personal advice is, a lot of stuff in Mahouka doesn't really make sense, it's more enjoyable if you take it as shiny magic/sci-fi that takes itself too seriously rather than something that's actually as smart as it pretends to be.
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2014-05-25, 14:51 | Link #97 |
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So 'The nail that sticks out is hammered down.' isn't a Japanese proverb. Got it. I'll remember that in the future. And tell the Japanese they can't use the proverb anymore.
(I'm not sure what NASA has to do with it, and I've never said 'It makes sense because Tatsuya says so. You're basically dismissing folks who disagree with you, and that's poor argument technique.)
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2014-05-25, 14:55 | Link #98 | |
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2014-05-25, 14:59 | Link #99 |
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Ah, I see. I should probably be less snarky, I'm simply a little annoyed at this topic rearing its head in -every- thread. I apologize.
As for the schooling, it's an established fact in setting that it works the way it works. Not just the magic schools work that way, but most students learn through self study. It kind of fits a lot of old scifi where the same thing happened, students learning from 'terminal screens'. One can certainly argue it wouldn't work real life, but. And as for reserve, there's a lot of schools not just in Japan with different levels of students.
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