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In this case its especially true, because Gundam ZZ by all intents and purposes should have been Zeta 2, considering the fact that it aired directly after Zeta. But it isn't. The creators meant for it to be a different show with different tone. So no matter how you feel sequels should be, fact is that ZZ is a new show, features mostly a new cast and tells a new story that only has a tiny bit to do with the last one. Quote:
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And again, ZZ's characters were quite consistent with Zeta's. They were placed in a different situation, but that does not change their personalities no matter how you look at it. Quote:
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2009-08-30, 00:52 | Link #83 |
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I actually thought Judau was one of the more "realistic" main characters in terms of piloting.
Amuro and Kamille (hell, even Uso) were taking out or at least matching some aces even early on in their respective series with what limited knowledge they had of things (Kamille with slightly more than Amuro), but Judau's early victories were more or less flukes and pure luck even though he DID, presumably, have more knowledge on MS in general from the get-go. (Being a Junk Dealer, he probably saw his fair share of busted MS that he could've looked at while also piloting middle-size MS for collecting and all.) Not to mention making basic mistakes like forgetting to have the Zeta's beam rifle charged up before going into battle and such, lol. He gained experience through his various battles against various Neo Zeon pilots, including dangerous ones like Puru and Puru Two which would help explain why he was able to fight so well against Haman. And considering Haman didn't really do much besides sit on the Command Ships and shout orders throughout ZZ, well, that'd cause anyone's skills to dull, if only slightly. We also can't forget that, compared to the Zeta Gundam in general, the ZZ is a BIG step up in each area of general performance while Haman is still using just the normal Qubeley. Sometimes MS performance CAN make up for difference in piloting skill. Amuro shows us that with the Gundam in MSG after all. Not to mention Judau has his own experience from fighting (slightly better) Qubeley's with Puru and Puru Two. Fighting even MORE powerful MS like the Psyco Gundam Mark II and the Quin Mantha and others would help too. ...and for the age difference thing...Uso and most of the Shrike Team? XD
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As for Judau and Roux going to Jupiter...who knows? I guess part of the reason could be to get away from the Earth Sphere, given Judau's witness to the greed and selfishness of the Federation (as shown with Bright's meeting of some bigwig officers) and even the AEUG at points (with how they and the Federation fleet arrived SO late that the Neo Zeon War was all but over already with Haman and Glemy's deaths). Or perhaps it could've been some Newtype calling of some sorts.
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2009-12-11, 23:25 | Link #86 | |
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But yeah, Judau was pretty realistic in piloting. He still picked it up rather quickly, he didn't start off as good of a pilot as Amuro was when he first piloted the Gundam.
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2009-12-12, 10:55 | Link #88 |
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The Qubeleys that Puru and Purur two pilot are both MK II models built after Haman's Qubeley.
Haman - AMX-004 Qubeley Puru - AMX-004-2 Qubeley Mark II Puru Two - AMX-004-3 Qubeley Mark II
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2009-12-12, 13:42 | Link #89 |
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Yep, Pie and Pie Two's Qubeley Mark IIs were the only canon ones made. The rest were Qubeley Mass Production Types. Haman's was her original one from Zeta.
Even if she did have a Mark II painted in her colors, it wouldn't have made that big a difference as the ONLY differences the Mark IIs has over the original were 2 more funnels and, with Pie Two's Mark II, a Psycommu Controller Headset to be able to control it from outside the cockpit. Otherwise, performance-wise, they're exactly the same.
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2009-12-12, 15:59 | Link #92 |
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ZZ was probably my first gundam series...and my favorite gundam was zz gundam (it still is my top 5 XD)
I think the series is actually quite good...the first half is fun and the second half has more serious drama...and we see many character development from the series the only element that is not good enough (in my opinion, of course) is the ending...it's like Zeon has to find a way to lose ...I expected a huge battle between AEUG and Zeon
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2009-12-12, 17:43 | Link #94 |
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It does, I agree. However, due to the "comicness" of the scenes I never considered this an attempt to make ZZ more realistic than the earlier shows. If they did, probably they would have done it in another fashion, not like this.
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2009-12-12, 22:19 | Link #96 |
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The comical aspect of the show is what makes it one of my favorite Gundam shows. I grew to like many of the characters because of their lighthearted goofy qualities. That made the deaths of some of those characters harder on me.
As for negatives, some comedy seemed forced and unnecessary at times, and the deaths of certain characters were poorly handled. For instance no one seemed to show much emotion after Puru sacrificed herself for Judau. Also Puru Two (My favorite character) seemed ignored, just slumped over in that chair dead.
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2009-12-12, 22:25 | Link #97 |
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Part of it is probably related to why ZZ was changed at the end because of Char's Counterattack getting the ok to produce.
Judau definitely did show emotion since, in ways, Pie did worm her way into his heart as a little sister-type...otherwise, I doubt he'd get SO pissed off that the bio-sensor would completely re-energize AND supercharge the ZZ to such an extent. But yeah, Pie Two definitely was all but ignored in the end x_x.
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2009-12-12, 22:34 | Link #99 |
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I guess he's not quite like Kamille in that emotional aspect bit where Kamille was so upset that people on the Argama weren't all tearing up and mourning over people's deaths earlier in the series.
I guess Judau learned to accept it earlier on since there were bigger problems right in front of them, but when it came to his real little sister dying, that would definitely leave an impact on pretty much anyone themselves. x_x
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