2019-07-14, 18:44 | Link #82 |
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I'd say it's more satirizing the general VIEW of the harem protagonist, the stereotype which frankly doesn't happen near as often as people seem to think. The "typical harem protagonist" is like Joro's act at the start, supportive and loyal and friendly, never a bad thing to say. But that's not what most harem protagonists are, or at least not all of it. Generally speaking there's always something else that makes the girls fall for the guy, a demonstration of passion or conviction, dedication to something deep enough to make them exhibit much stronger emotions or give of themselves. And sure enough, indeed I'd say that's what made the girls fall for him: the fact that even after all they'd done to him he'd still been willing to become furious and challenge someone he couldn't beat on account of their feelings and his personal convictions on what lines can't be crossed.
I don't really have a problem with him forgiving them, as every last one of them had been bastards at times, and each of them had exhibited some indication that they did truly care deep down. As he said, the situations just happened to bring out their worst sides without giving them a good opportunity to show their better sides. If there's one thing I don't like, it's how quickly the girls seem to switch to acting like worthy romantic candidates, jumping into his arms and talking about dancing together for a charm or attacking him when he has something bad to say. They've been forgiven, but that doesn't mean they should feel like they deserve a chance at being his girlfriend. At this point that's something he should give, not something they should actively pursue with any kind of expectation. |
2019-07-14, 19:25 | Link #83 |
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The idea I get from this is that Panji is first come first served after seeing Joro's real self back in the past.
However, the other bunch saw that AFTER they caused his fall and then Panji had to clear his name because she believed in him while they didn't. That would burn bridges but they also took that Joro is quite forgiving and not as resentful as he should be so they end taking that as an opening to get into his romantic life, at the first volumes they had a feel MC has only eyes for Panji, but as the series goes on they confirm this and start acting more and more rashl to take her out of the race. That aside now that they DO like him I think Joro has realised this already, he's not being dense, he just gave up on things like harem and plays the role of the dense MC to them to keep the status quo until they graduate. But fact is, he is just tsundere for Panji and she knows it .
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Valid points. So at the very least from the manga, they're certainly remorseful about their actions and doing their best to not make Jiro suffer again. But I'm still kind of pissed off though about the girls. Sun not as much, since he's probably gonna pursue another girl/kouhai from vol 8. This may sound pretty dark and cruel, but I wished what happened was that after the apology and confession, Jiro doesn't reconcile. Instead, Sunflower girl and Sun-chan are f*cked from being on the verge of failing their tests, while Cosmos gets in trouble in student council for many consecutive errors from not having Jiro around to help or even gets in trouble from fraud/embezzlement. Then, the three go down on their knees and beg for forgiveness and help. Jiro says f*ck off, but Panji reminds him that they are not inherently bad people, so Jiro softens up, and then we go back to their current relationship with each other. And apparently all is fair in love and war; hence, forgiveness from Jiro implies open chance to pursue him as a partner for his extreme kindness and willingness to stand up for others knowing the fact that he will suffer. Then again, one consolation is that Himewari and Cosmos will probably have their hearts broken from Jiro choosing best girl, aka Panji (can't see Panji not winning from being in the cover for almost all the novels). Quote:
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2019-09-10, 09:10 | Link #85 |
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Everyone is selfish, even MC despite being the less selfish among them he looks nice in comparison.
Btw Next volume cover Will they finally have some wholesome time together without those pebbles on the path getting in the way? Let's find out next month(October 10th)~
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2019-09-12, 16:18 | Link #93 |
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Which is why I was ranting at first and later had to ask others, such as Kuroageha who was more forgiving of those characters, their perspectives. Still having a hard time accepting it, but I guess one could make the argument that him not resorting to retaliation is a form of moral superiority and strength over the pieces of trash.
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2019-10-02, 21:19 | Link #95 |
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Sorry for late reply, but yeah, while I do agree with how holding oneself back is a form of strength, too bad he's either too stubborn/stupid to learn from his lesson, especially when back then he said about the two girls that he "wants nothing to do with them", yet still desires to be friends again.
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2019-10-02, 21:28 | Link #96 |
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Alright. With the anime upon us, I've finally decided to get into this. I've seen spoilers, but I am still utterly lost. Can someone explain this to poor noob? I get that the two girls love Sun who loves Pansy who loves MC. I know that Sun is playing MC to get into Pansy's pants through the two girls, but what I can't understand is why the two would help Sun get it on with another girl.
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Well, it’s pretty much Panji, since she’s the only one introduced to his mom and is on every cover except for one, whereas the other girls only show up on AT MOST one cover Last edited by LKK; 2019-10-03 at 08:52. Reason: Posts merged. Don't post multiple times in a row. Use the Edit button instead. |
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