2012-09-05, 11:31 | Link #81 |
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This is getting interesting. I think Kakashi and co. are in for a serious ass whooping.
Obito and Madara may even capture Naruto and Killer Bee. Bee at the very least. Kishi has a lot of explaining to do when it comes to Obito's back story. How did Obito survive? How did he get involved with Madara? How did Rin die and how did Obito find out? We were introduced to Obito as this dorky Uchiha kid who behaved like Naruto and died in the last Ninja war fighting alongside Kakashi. He gave him his eye before he died and taught him an important life lesson. How did he become the Akatsuki mastermind and so insanely powerful in such a short time? Remember when Obito fought Konan he told her that he had the bloodlines of both the Uchiha and the Senju. I wonder if his inheritance of those lineages is due to his parentage or some genetic experimentation on his body. What makes Obito so special? Maybe he is a direct descendant of Madara himself? Maybe that's why he was found to be useful? I just had a thought. What if Obito obtained his Mangekyo Sharingan by killing Rin himself?! Perhaps that was a mission given to him by Madara and that is how he got stronger. He could have done it in disguise and Kakashi was there but didn't know it was Obito who killed her. Kakashi seemed shocked about Obito knowing about Rin like he did not expect him to know she was dead. It's kind of lame that Obito would simply give up on life because Kakashi let Rin die. On the other hand Obito had a crush on Rin and its easy to see how he could consider her to be his best friend. I'm guessing that Orochimaru and Sasuke are going to commune with the spirits of the Hokages which Orochimaru learned to do when he heard about the Death God. Perhaps he will learn the truth about Obito's involvement in the Kyuubi attack on the leaf and the order to kill the Uchiha clan from the 3rd and 4th Hokage. Maybe this meeting will impact his decisions on which direction he will take in the final conflict.
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2012-09-05, 11:37 | Link #83 |
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@itachi-san: It's not whether or not Naruto knows the character, but rather how the character is connected to Naruto. Tobi, in the end, simply seems to be a less interesting clone of Nagato.
As I said, now that Madara has appeared, Tobi will probably be dealt with by Kakashi and Gai (unless Kishimoto wants to stretch this out even further). |
2012-09-05, 11:41 | Link #84 |
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I'm just slightly disappointed that everyone hears "You could say it was because Rin died." and immediately assumes that's all there is to it. He said it in such a half-assed intonation and it's clear that he's not even bothering to properly explain himself. And seriously, not every villain has to have a hard-on for telling sob stories when they are asked "why are you doing this?".
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2012-09-05, 11:55 | Link #86 |
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But... he's supposed to be stalling for time. Why wouldn't he try to buy precious time by telling a long-winded SOB story? Or has everyone forgotten that he summoned the Gedou Mazou and is channeling the tailed beasts to cast his imperfect infinite tsukiyomi? I mean, you don't see it in the background either, so clearly the characters themselves don't remember what they were trying to stop/destroy before the mask came off.
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2012-09-05, 12:20 | Link #88 | |
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When Hinata was stabbed a girl Naruto only considered a friend he went 8 tails change that to Sakura being killed and it would be an order of magnitude worse. |
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2012-09-05, 12:21 | Link #89 |
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This chapter didn't explain anything, i wonder how many chapters will it take for Kishimoto to make any sense of all this. I hope this doesn't end like Lost, where all the open mysteries were just dropped instead of giving any explanation.
So here's an idea which tries to make sense of Obito's sudden personality reversal: what if Madara used Zetsu to divide Obito's personality to two sides, all negative went to Tobi and all positive somewhere else. Similarily to DB/DBZ where that green Namek guy divided himself to good and bad side trying to be all good, but then the bad side caused a lot of trouble for Goku and the others. If this is Bad Obito then there's a chance that we can get back the original Obito if Good Obito is found and reunited with this half. But most importantly it would explain how the hell was Tobi's personality completely different from Obito's only about 2-5(?) years after his "death" when he fights Minato and drives Minato to sacrifice himself and Kushina. |
2012-09-05, 12:21 | Link #90 |
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I still think he is Izuna cause of the way Madara says "you seem to be having fun here.....Obito" I really think he mean Izuna. Why would he say something like that to his student, it seem more like his brother is just messing with everyone and now madara comes over to join Izuna. I know he was kinda of surprise at first but afterwards he stands there with madara like how they would back when they took over the Uchihas.
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2012-09-05, 12:27 | Link #91 |
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Isn't Obito the old good but nice guy, thats what I get from this chapter (specifically with Madara's way of talking to him), its like something is up, heck, he didn't go "the girl I loved died!!! FUuuuuu!! to Kakashi but said it without paying care at all, maybe even the current Obito was there when Rin died and didn't move a finger and just watched Kakashi failing his promise.
Izuna as option isn't unlikely now. |
2012-09-05, 12:31 | Link #92 | |
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Quite honestly, Hinata is a better comparable character to Obito than Naruto. The previous chapters flashback covered between the ages of 5 to 13, and I find it unlikely that there is some hidden secret before the age of 5 (then again, Itachi did see a battlefield at the age of 4, so anything is possible). So, we have the reasons behind Obito's nature and attitude. How Obito was shaped after his "death" is still unknown, but we can understand who he was before he landed in Madara's lap (which is all I have been discussing). Last edited by james0246; 2012-09-05 at 12:44. |
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2012-09-05, 12:34 | Link #94 | |
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Anyway, no idea how Kishi is going to write his way out of this one, especially now Madara has joined the fight. None of these guys stand a chance against him, Naruto included, unless he simply stops bothering/forgets how to use all the techniques he showed against the Kages.
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2012-09-05, 12:37 | Link #95 |
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Because Tobi is a liar, he says he cares for nothing yet goes out of his way to say that Kakashi failed to protect Rin. That or he's just insane and wants to care for nothing but clearly cares lots.
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2012-09-05, 12:57 | Link #97 |
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I was reading Kishi's interview he gave a month ago, and where he said Tobi's identity would be revealed soon.
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Interesting that he said Madara has no weakness and has a relationship with Tobi/Obito. Both of which will become important in this fight. Also that Sasuke and Naruto will meet during the war. Since this is the climax of the war, I assume it has to be during this fight. Also it seems like this is the spot where every character will gather for the blow off with the Jyuubi potentially released. The Kages, K11, Sasuke, ninja army, etc should all be there. No more jumping around. And it does seem like the Konoha 11 might do something judging by Kishi's last answer. It would be ironic if they played a major role in Madara's defeat and succeeded where the Kages failed. . |
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2012-09-05, 13:09 | Link #99 |
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^And, as I said, I think Hinata fits the role far better than Naruto does. Simply because both characters were the "goofy" member of Team 7 means nothing (especially since their goofiness was very different, though they did have a somewhat similar attitude toward their friends), certainly not enough to say that Obito was the 'Naruto' of his generation (or vice versa).
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