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Anyway, I actually think such disgusting beginnings help with a message here. No matter what you're like, even if you're the most awful, disgusting form of scum imaginable, with time and effort it's always possible to make a new man/woman of yourself. In that sense, it's really best that we see him throughout his childhood and adolescence. In a story about a guy struggling to make a better man of himself, you really can't just say "Ten years later" and have him suddenly be an awesome gentleman. |
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2021-01-17, 13:45 | Link #83 |
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I think he got isekaied with a second chance because he tried to save these 3 students, is something related to the reincarnation i guess, do not matter how much atrocities you did in your life, if you ask for forgiveness and do something good before you die you can have the salvation in the alterlife. Is something that the main character of such ideakis did often before they die.
I do not remember where, i read a chivalrous poem very similar in the past, that bad dude got salvation praying to god before the death but the god of the underworld got mad cause his soul got taken away into the heaven realm at the last minute so he destroy his human death body with the force of nature. <3 |
2021-01-17, 13:58 | Link #84 |
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Well that was some brutal bullying he suffered.
Too bad no more roxy, is cool that even if he suprased her, he still think of her as his master. I hope to see their reunion in the future and even then he will call her master. |
2021-01-17, 15:01 | Link #85 |
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That smile in the thumbnail is so trademark Megumin . She really owns that kind of smile that it's difficult for me not to think of her whenever a character did it. That said, after watching that episode, I have to say "holy s**t!!" in regards to those bullies. Stripping a student inside the class is one thing but what kind of highschool bullies "crucified" their naked victim at the front gate of the school and openly mocked him? And what kind of school will let that happen in an age where everyone has a camera?? Even if the school doesn't care about the well-being of the students, they should care about their reputation and one of the teachers should really stop the bullies in the middle of their "crucifixion" activity (and those are a great number of bullies btw, almost like a gang). Those bullies are so OTT and on par with the highschool bullies from the current Yashahime who kidnapped an entire family and tied them to a tree just to draw out their victim . My second reaction after watching this episode is: do some normal people really like to masturbate outside the room (where anybody can see) while peeking others having sex? I thought it was only a thing in hentai & porn??
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2021-01-17, 16:21 | Link #88 | ||
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Also, "masturbating in the hallway while peeking others" was a fetish of modern hentai & porn instead of something you read from medieval history or fiction/fantasy AFAIK. I really think the writer got too carried away for that scene.
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2021-01-17, 16:43 | Link #89 |
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You are overthinking it. Roxy just simply got horny after stumbling on hot sex scene and forgot about "honor" or "reputation". Also even as someone who finished novels I don't recall many people obsessing with such values (well at least not in Asura kingdom, where Greyrats live).
Also medieval people certainly wasn't less horny then modern ones. Given lack of entertainment probably more. And honestly for those reasons when I seen that scene I certainly didn't felt any need think of it as gratuitous.
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2021-01-17, 17:10 | Link #90 | ||
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For a tutor, Roxy really doesn't have that much self control when it comes to her sexual desire. She just had to relieve herself right there & then? It's really a knock against her character. It would be much better if the MC saw Roxy masturbating in her own room or bathroom than what we have right now.
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2021-01-17, 17:28 | Link #91 |
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You don't find any sexual content in mainstream anime. Just because this one entertained some sensual content doesn't mean it tries emulate hentai. I mean I will surely excuse you for voicing how you are weirded out, but you will have to excuse me for disagreeing and thinking problem you see is just in your head in return.
Also it's not like being tutor is Roxy career of choice, irc she was adventurer before and got hired because her exceptional skill in magic not experiences in education field. And let's be honest she probably got to see quite treat, otherwise she would show more self-restraint, probably.
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2021-01-17, 17:36 | Link #92 |
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It gets worse. Why did the funeral happen to begin with?
Honestly, I just can't get behind the premise here. The fact that this guy gets a second chance at life is incredibly insulting. He was practically suicidal when he saw that truck. The only life left for him was one of a beggar starving on the streets. So he saved some kids at virtually no loss to himself. Wow, give the guy a cookie.
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Wrong. We have a main character having sex & saw a post-coital scene in Gundam SEED & Destiny. We have sexual nudity in multiple Gundam shows & movie. We have sexual nudity in Doraemon whenever Nobita intentionally barged into Shizuka's bathroom with Dokodemo Doa when she was bathing or showering. And plenty of other examples (but you should get the point). You can't get more mainstream & all-ages than Doraemon & Gundam. Yet they did their sexual stuff without pandering to the hentai crowd.
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And no sane family will accept an excuse of "I saw something really hot!" from a teacher who masturbates in the hallway.
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2021-01-17, 17:52 | Link #94 |
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Yeah Doraemon sound like serious sexual content Gundam had some, but this franchise is considered mainstream because it became so popular not because it actually fit mainstream in general.
Also I wouldn't go as far as calling it criticism, because that would mean I am trying make you change your way. Explaining why I believe you are wrong is not that. Basically I am saying you are wrong because you seek issues where there are non. If you take it as criticism that's up to you.
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2021-01-17, 17:57 | Link #95 | |
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Yes. You said sexual content in mainstream anime. Nobita blushing at the sight of naked Shizuka is very sexual for a kids show.
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2021-01-17, 18:11 | Link #96 |
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Again I did say Gundam mainstream because it's popular. Even show about totalitarian regime fighting agains vore obsessed demented giants became mainstream when it became popular enough. Doesn't mean vore is now mainstream.
And yes I don't care about decency. If you ask me if it's indecent, then yes it indecent. If that's what you wanted hear you won. On urelated note this certainly indecent act wasn't particularly impossilble happen nor something particularly weird.
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2021-01-17, 18:36 | Link #97 | |
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Roxy probably wanted to get the best seat to listen in on Rudy's parents getting it on .
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2021-01-17, 18:38 | Link #98 | |
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Yes, it is unrelated. Also, anything can be seen as common if the writer made it so.
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2021-01-17, 18:51 | Link #100 | |
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I just think it was more unnecessary than anything else, but I just chalk it up to the writing being flawed as a product of its time and a trendsetter.
I mean, actively crucifying him outside of the school is excessive not only when you consider the logistics of how they could do that, the consequences of what would happen, and the seriousness of how it would be handled in a first-world country (which he was in at the time). The writer probably didn't consider that and just threw it in as a means to justify his fears and earn some sympathy points. Less would have been more here to be honest, bullying in itself is pretty traumatizing without needing to go so far in a constructed world of fiction and I could even understand them pulling his pants down in public to humiliate him, but stringing him up is just excessive. In the same vein, having the parents going to town with one another every night is understandable. Roxy being outside where she can get caught instead of listening through the walls of a room when she's a genius wizard just so the main protagonist can catch a glimpse is just poorly done. More so since that's the only mentioned time of it happening as they flash forward through a year of training. For example, the author probably could have just had Rudy go to her room to ask her a magic question if she was still up and catch her in the act because the parents are so freaking loud that I'm surprised anyone can sleep in that home. Quote:
The author presents him as an Otaku in its purest, most unflattering form without going into being an outright jerk. Yeah he was a victim of bullying to justify his fear for staying locked in his home, but at the end of the day he was a fat loser who skipped his parents funeral to masturbate to something really unwholesome (WN spoilers) in contrast to any other kind of more understandable excuse and got the boot because he had it coming, with premise being that if a guy who screwed his life up this much gets a second chance and can do it better, anyone can do so... presumably without the dying bit. Or so I tell myself.
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