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Verso Sciolto · 2017-10-13, 20:05

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Originally Posted by drawr

I really didn't get the impression this show was tongue in cheek at all. It seemed to be taking the magical nazi shenanigans very seriously.

In reply you got anime references. Makes you wonder, doesn't it...? Made me wonder, anyway.

Cosmic Eagle · 2017-10-13, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Verso Sciolto

In reply you got anime references. Makes you wonder, doesn't it...? Made me wonder, anyway.

Aesthetics are not the same as the core theme of a work, if that's what you are driving at

Arya · 2017-10-14, 08:25

First episode was better than ep0. Sure I wasn't taking that as reference to make any assumptions.

Anyways, the episode was interesting enough, more or less. And when I was starting to notice the absence of a black haired girl she appeared. Now I hope they will introduce her soon and that she will be the MH. Because the two friends are not that interesting and seem to be out of the magical / nazi loop. And the guillotine girl has past life connections but seems to appear in dreams, so far at least.

Kanon · 2017-10-14, 12:03

That was better than the first episode in the sense it wasn't confusing, but it wasn't very interesting either. Given the low number of episode, I expected a faster pace, but I guess it's good they aren't rushing unless it means cutting out more important things later.

Anh_Minh · 2017-10-14, 15:40

I actually preferred ep0 to ep1. Ep0 may have been confusing with regards to the setting, but it was relatively clear on why we should care (because cool stuff). Ep1 was a yawnfest. I don't know if I'll stay with it.

Verso Sciolto · 2017-10-15, 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by drawr

I really didn't get the impression this show was tongue in cheek at all. It seemed to be taking the magical nazi shenanigans very seriously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verso Sciolto

In reply you got anime references. Makes you wonder, doesn't it...? Made me wonder, anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Aesthetics are not the same as the core theme of a work, if that's what you are driving at

The historical nazis knew they were the bad guys. We know they knew because of "Sonderaktion 1005" a.o..

Cosmic Eagle · 2017-10-16, 06:13

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Originally Posted by Verso Sciolto

The historical nazis knew they were the bad guys. We know they knew because of "Sonderaktion 1005" a.o..

The characters here do know they are villians and in it purely for themselves actually. But the point of the posts you quoted up there was "edginess." That's an aesthetic factor which is not restricted to villian characters or whether they are aware they are bad guys or not.

Yoxall · 2017-10-20, 08:39

Blu-ray cover art.

Spoiler for VN readers would know what the spoiler is:

shmaster · 2017-10-20, 10:26

How obviously they are trying to sell Ana with that cover.

Call me surprised. I did not expect them to animate the scene where Shriou confronts the Holy Grail.

Also, I am laughing so hard that the garbage CR translation actually did one thing better than the official VN translation.

(The VN translation falsely translated Holy Grail into Divine Vessel. So the CR garbage actually managed to be more correct.)

Nivek von Beldo · 2017-10-20, 17:34

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Originally Posted by shmaster

How obviously they are trying to sell Ana with that cover.

Call me surprised. I did not expect them to animate the scene where Shriou confronts the Holy Grail.

Also, I am laughing so hard that the garbage CR translation actually did one thing better than the official VN translation.

(The VN translation falsely translated Holy Grail into Divine Vessel. So the CR garbage actually managed to be more correct.)

I think they wanted to change in the VN to not looks like a fate clone(when Dies Irae come at the same time and was inspired by tsukihime)

Cosmic Eagle · 2017-10-21, 01:07

fate is older than dies I think

And yeah, I didn't expect Shirou to show up there as well.

Applehell · 2017-10-21, 02:50

Well this is getting more interesting, on the otherhand animation during combat is still terrible.

While I did expect Ren's dreams to be more than just a coincidence since the frequently matched the number of murders, I didn't expect it was he who was behind them. I was assumption was the Nazi guys after their conversation last episode. I'm unsure if he's possessed by Karl or Marie at the moment making him kill subconsciously. Eitherway, he's gotten into quite a tight-spot, entirely unwillingly.

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Originally Posted by Nivek von Beldo

I think they wanted to change in the VN to not looks like a fate clone(when Dies Irae come at the same time and was inspired by tsukihime)

This does reminds of UBW's beginning episodes when Caster went around murdering people for mana, however it doesn't really remind of Fate so far. The Holy Grail has appeared in numerous fictional stories anyway.

Kanon · 2017-10-21, 13:05

That was definitely more interesting than the first episode. I can see the Tsukihime inspiration mentioned earlier.

MCAL · 2017-10-21, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Nivek von Beldo

I think they wanted to change in the VN to not looks like a fate clone(when Dies Irae come at the same time and was inspired by tsukihime)

According to one of the translators, it was translated that way in the VN because it sounded less awkward.

@Shmaster

Spoiler:

shmaster · 2017-10-21, 21:49

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Originally Posted by MCAL

According to one of the translators, it was translated that way in the VN because it sounded less awkward.

@Shmaster

Spoiler:

I see, then I have disagree with the translators on this this case, although I agree with most of their choices.

Valeria being referred to as the Holy Grail is one of the awkwardly chuuni point of the VN. And I am highly against taking away anything that may sounds chuuni from Masada.

sion21 · 2017-10-24, 12:23

Anyone played the VN before? is it actually good? i watched the first 2 eps of the anime and it just scream edgy chuuni to me, the worst kind of chunni.

erneiz_hyde · 2017-10-24, 12:37

Try it on steam, the common route is free.

IceHism · 2017-10-24, 16:32

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Originally Posted by sion21

Anyone played the VN before? is it actually good? i watched the first 2 eps of the anime and it just scream edgy chuuni to me, the worst kind of chunni.

The VN is considered a kamige so yes. It is actually good.

Nivek von Beldo · 2017-10-27, 15:41

Spoiler for DI4:

shmaster · 2017-10-27, 21:08

Is it just me or is this adaptation trying really hard to NOT explain anything?

They cut the conversation between the beast and the snake last episode, now they cut Rusalka's info dump this episode.
Yet, they toss in pointless scene of the snake going all cosmic NEET.

This is some of the most stupid changes I have seen.

2017-10-14, 08:25	Link #83
Arya Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	First episode was better than ep0. Sure I wasn't taking that as reference to make any assumptions. Anyways, the episode was interesting enough, more or less. And when I was starting to notice the absence of a black haired girl she appeared. Now I hope they will introduce her soon and that she will be the MH. Because the two friends are not that interesting and seem to be out of the magical / nazi loop. And the guillotine girl has past life connections but seems to appear in dreams, so far at least. __________________ *The meaning of things lies not in the things themselves, but in our attitude towards them.*

2017-10-14, 12:03	Link #84
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	That was better than the first episode in the sense it wasn't confusing, but it wasn't very interesting either. Given the low number of episode, I expected a faster pace, but I guess it's good they aren't rushing unless it means cutting out more important things later. __________________

2017-10-20, 08:39	Link #88
Yoxall Finest Crusade Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Alteria (Real Earth)	Blu-ray cover art. Spoiler for VN readers would know what the spoiler is: __________________ AVATAR BY KAIHAN and SIGNATURE BY RIKIKAI

2017-10-20, 10:26	Link #89
shmaster オンドリャァァァ!!! Join Date: May 2009	How obviously they are trying to sell Ana with that cover. Call me surprised. I did not expect them to animate the scene where Shriou confronts the Holy Grail. Also, I am laughing so hard that the garbage CR translation actually did one thing better than the official VN translation. (The VN translation falsely translated Holy Grail into Divine Vessel. So the CR garbage actually managed to be more correct.) Last edited by shmaster; 2017-10-20 at 14:29.

2017-10-21, 01:07	Link #91
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	fate is older than dies I think And yeah, I didn't expect Shirou to show up there as well. __________________

2017-10-14, 15:40	Link #85
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	I actually preferred ep0 to ep1. Ep0 may have been confusing with regards to the setting, but it was relatively clear on why we should care (because cool stuff). Ep1 was a yawnfest. I don't know if I'll stay with it.

2017-10-21, 13:05	Link #93
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	That was definitely more interesting than the first episode. I can see the Tsukihime inspiration mentioned earlier. __________________

2017-10-24, 12:23	Link #96
sion21 Member Join Date: Feb 2016	Anyone played the VN before? is it actually good? i watched the first 2 eps of the anime and it just scream edgy chuuni to me, the worst kind of chunni.

2017-10-24, 12:37	Link #97
erneiz_hyde 18782+18782=37564 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: InterWebs	Try it on steam, the common route is free. __________________

2017-10-27, 15:41	Link #99
Nivek von Beldo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	Spoiler for DI4: So Kasumi was the one all killings and seems she was magically controlled by that magician Karl and seems all connect others plans...4 episodes and i'm so pretty strange...in the good sense, seems will be a big payoff pretty soon

2017-10-27, 21:08	Link #100
shmaster オンドリャァァァ!!! Join Date: May 2009	Is it just me or is this adaptation trying really hard to NOT explain anything? They cut the conversation between the beast and the snake last episode, now they cut Rusalka's info dump this episode. Yet, they toss in pointless scene of the snake going all cosmic NEET. This is some of the most stupid changes I have seen.