2014-07-24, 20:21 | Link #81 |
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My take on all this is simply switch out Kamijou with say Kuroko and you can make the same argument- Why must they "force" a Kuroko/Saten involvement in every arc? This is Mikoto's story!
Is it because they're her friends? Well, I guess Kamijou must be chopped liver. Same thing applies to this; he didn't really do much in level upper compared to the other girls, and sister's arc was in the original. And lest I've mistaken, almost everyone else did something pretty main heroine ish in this arc like Misaki and Kongou. |
2014-07-26, 00:45 | Link #82 | ||
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I'm pleasantly surprised at this turn of events. I'm guessing the time-skip will happen after this arc then. 2 days in this series can be very long, so I'm excited for how much possible material we can get. Regardless, I'm excited that Kamachi has many more ideas apparently for Railgun, lol. I'm pretty excited for this arc actually. Lol, what will you guys do if Kamachi makes dream ranker the #6's ability? Will you all scream? Lol, and Kamijou WILL save the day. Just not Misaka's lol. Maybe we'll get more Gunha. Well, I'm excited anyway. Quote:
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2014-07-26, 07:27 | Link #83 | |
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I still hope that before the arc ramps up we see Saten/Uiharu pester Misaka, or possible Touma if he isn't already in Italy the next chapter, about their relationship.
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2014-07-27, 17:14 | Link #87 |
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Railgun, itself, was already a retcon from the beginning. The scenes with Uiharu and THAT character from Volume 15 make no sense if she's close friends with Mikoto, but we can play that up to plot-induced stupidity.
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2014-07-27, 20:59 | Link #89 | ||
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Welp, here's to hoping this means that Mikoto will have memory loss in an arc pretty soon to make this canon. Or at least partial memory loss. I find that interesting though. I wonder how Kamachi is going to try to fix that problem, lol. Also, Kamachi did want to make Kuroko the main character of the side-story in the first place, so he was kind of forced to make Mikoto the MC, but I'm sure he can think of something that makes sense retroactively... Also, Volume 15 definitely isn't an issue though, because if she stops communicating as much with Mikoto later for reasons or she doesn't tell Mikoto about it, then there really isn't a problem anyway... it isn't like Uiharu knows the specifics of what happened anyway... And as far as the last comment: hmph... Uiharu is pretty smart actually, and I think she's a great character... so I'm a bit confused as to why you think otherwise? |
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2014-07-27, 21:20 | Link #91 |
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There was also a short 4-koma in Railgun that addressed that specific issue. We're way past that now. But yeah Railgun itself is a retcon. Ironically, when Saten called out Endymion as a retcon, she doesn't realize that she too is a retcon character.
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2014-07-28, 11:26 | Link #92 | |
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I don't think that'll be true if it does have an effect on the main plot later... Just to be clear on this, is a retcon when you add something in later that you didn't plan in advance even if it is done well? Or is it necessarily negative? I'll be willing to agree that it is a retcon if I don't have to agree that this makes it bad or unenjoyable in any way... |
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2014-07-28, 11:36 | Link #93 | |
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Yes. Not once was it shown in the background of any panel. That was the joke Saten made as she was pointing it out.
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2014-07-28, 11:51 | Link #94 | ||
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It is because we should have been able to see it/having it mentionned to be under construction.
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some more to the fanbase. I have no problem with Endymion if taken in itself, as an independant story, but if framed into the story timeline, it is just ugly. And no, nods to it don't count as making it look better.
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2014-07-28, 11:58 | Link #95 |
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Retcons aren't mostly bad for anything like that. They're mostly bad because the term gets predominately used when authors try to change things for no apparent reason other than leaving their marks on the character's history.
Endymion is a retcon, and yes we should've seen it otherwise, but it existing in no way breaks the story in any sense. |
2014-07-28, 12:28 | Link #96 |
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Yeah, it's mostly because of my bad experience with comic books that I don't really like retcons in general.
That's why I said taken as an independant story (I should have said side story), like the stories of ToAru SP, it is good. It doesn't break the story, but in the grand scheme of things, it is irrelevant. My bad if I expressed myself poorly there.
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