2023-05-11, 10:31 | Link #85 |
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On a list of things Renfred probably never expected to discuss with Elias, the question of if he ever planned on getting hitched is probably pretty high up there .
It's not that surprising that Renfred sees Alice as a daughter and not as his legacy or someone to take up his teachings and succeed him...which irks Alice because that's entirely the reason why she's working and training so hard, especially because she feels like she's been nothing but a burden to him and hasn't given back anywhere near the amount of what he's given her . Simon! It's always nice to see him. Especially when he's getting two bashful, awkward, girls to admit their really friends . People assuming Elias and Ruth like hanging out together when the only thing that bonds them is Chise and that's about it for their relationship . Probably a lot to unpack there with the fact that Chise and Elias sleep together but for now it's a sleepover with the girls ! Just a reminder circa season 1 of just how messed up and depraved Joseph was. I mean, I can't fault Alice here, nobody was expecting the giant mantis woman monster. But the way Renfred lost his arm and Joseph just rubbed it in his face...jeez. Also RIP Renfred's ponytail . It kind of sucks that Alice' idea of a dad is her pathetic junkie of a father compared to Renfred, who has been nothing but the best to her. But I guess it sets up how she views her dynamic with Renfred and why she's not satisfied being viewed as his daughter There's...a lot to Chise and Elias' relationship. But I don't think she's ever really viewed him as a father, especially because she did have a relatively normal and loving dad (up until he basically absconded with her little brother and left her and her mom. Are they ever going to follow up on that?). But it does set up the two to try to clarify their relationship a little more . I can totally believe Elias just needed a convenient word or role to keep Chise close to him and, from his perspective, a "spouse" fit the bill. Although that's not even a guarantee these days because of the high divorce rate. Maybe don't make Elias that anxious, Chise . Though their relationship and dynamic has developed a lot since then, and in a world where people play various roles with each other and in relationships, what should matter is what makes Chise and Elias happy with each other. And if that means being spouses in some form or another, then all the better ! Just your daily reminder that something shady is going on at the college. Looks like they've got some spooky stuff in storage .
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2023-05-11, 18:17 | Link #86 | |
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Simon using rhetoric to get Chise and Alice to admit they are their friends is probably my favorite scene of the episode.
I wonder how Alice would feel knowing Joseph was chilling in the backyard while she recounting to Chise how horrible he had been to her and Renfred. Quote:
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2023-05-13, 09:47 | Link #89 |
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I doubt we'll see much, if anything, about her dad and brother. Chise lives in such a different world from them now, and there's a long future ahead for her and Elias. I don't think picking up the father storyline would add much at this point.
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2023-05-13, 10:29 | Link #90 | |
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I honestly wonder if her brother is in a similar situation to her too.
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2023-05-13, 18:15 | Link #92 | |
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IMO Chise has already gotten closure when she recalled everything during the time she was held by Joseph. She knows her parents loved her and they had reasons to leave her behind. That doesn't make what happened to her right, but she's at peace with it now.
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2023-05-13, 22:01 | Link #93 |
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Chise's brother repels monsters just like how the father does. It was why Chise's mom could leave her and her brother alone together. Once the dad took her brother, there was nothing keeping Chise safe when her mother wasn't there. That was part of what caused her breakdown, as she had to struggle to find work where she could still be there for her and she couldn't let her guard down because one night she woke up to see Chise being attacked by a monster.
That's half the reason I really don't give the father a lot of slack and I'm hoping there was another reason for him abandoning her beyond his control because him just ditching his wife and daughter led to a whole lot of issues. And even if he bothered to try to find Chise, you have to remember that when she sold herself they faked her death so no one in Japan would be looking for her. So even if her brother and father were to look, they'd only find records that she was dead. Really, the fact that Chise's mother lived to both adulthood and having two children is a miracle considering Sleigh Beggy die young for a number of reasons. One of which we saw being Japanese neighbors are just mean.
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2023-05-13, 23:05 | Link #94 | |
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It's not that I think Chise needs more closure so much as it's an unanswered plot beat that was set up in a show that's known for it's slow build plotting.
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2023-05-13, 23:36 | Link #96 |
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There's a (very good) spinoff manga called "Wizard's Blue", where the MC is a boy about the right age. It's not totally impossible he could be Chise's brother, though I suspect that'd be too convenient.
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2023-05-14, 09:47 | Link #97 |
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I personally think it was the Japanese kid who rolled up to Simon in cut content for the moment, but really what are the chances? Though considering the bird and the fact that there's literally a division in the church called Crows, I feel I have some solid ground to sit on.
Anyway, blog post done and changes below. Ironically, one of the things missing is Chise's thoughts about her father. Spoiler:
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