2022-05-27, 09:14 | Link #81 |
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The ending just left me confused.
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Horrible visuals aside, this wasn't a bad installment. I certainly liked it better than Arise. Might even have been a hit if they had stuck with traditional animation, tons of people refuse to watch it because it's 3D.
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2022-05-27, 16:44 | Link #83 |
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From what I understood, people who are double thinking don't even realize it, so it's probably like an overlay. Kinda like a super advanced augmented reality, like a filter. So advanced you don't even realize it's there.
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2022-05-27, 23:09 | Link #84 |
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Wait, since Section 9 personnels' memory about Purin are wiped except for Motoko, Batou (& probably Togusa), does that mean Motoko let the Double Think plan go? Or did their memory got manipulated by the pods? I'm also confused here.
But all in all, Spoiler for death of a major character:
Heck, the current Ultraman Netflix & Pacific Rim Black even have (much) stiffer characters than SAC 2045. So, if we're talking about horrible 3DCG anime, what standard are we basing it on? Some people said Beastars is better but that's mostly because the characters are anthro-animals that audience can easily excuse for moving rather clunky. Some will say Dorohedoro is better but, again, there are a lot of nonhuman characters in that anime. Are we going to compare SAC 2045 quality with movies like Gantz 0 or Triple-A game cutscenes like current Final Fantasy?
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2022-05-28, 02:20 | Link #86 |
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Just because Arcane is excellent, doesn't mean others are automatically horrible. There are layers of good/bad. If Arcane is the king of the hill, and Berserk 3D & Ex-Arm are the bottom of the barrel, there's still a wide space in between. And I believe SAC 2045 is still in the upper echelon somewhere below Arcane, making the show looking pretty good.
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2022-05-28, 04:09 | Link #87 |
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With all due respect, this 'version' of GITS defiles the Major and Batou so much, amongst others, that it holds no value for me at all. It feels like someone is scripting live-action figurine fights. But fair, there are so many titles that make it feel like acrylic stand fights instead, so I guess it has that goes for it.
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2022-05-28, 06:31 | Link #88 |
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I also want to highlight the excellent action direction & coreography in this season:
I mean, visual aside (you already established that you hate it), how did SAC 2045 defiles Motoko & Batou exactly?
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2022-05-28, 06:48 | Link #89 | |
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2022-05-28, 08:29 | Link #90 | |
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They don't look like the characters I know one bit...The Major is one of anime's true badasses. She looks like she's about to go on stage for an idol show in this...Batou looks like he's 70 and his face is about to fall out...not that gritty, hard-as-nails guy. The voice acting feels completely out of sync with the visuals as a result and I just can't buy into believing this.. I don't know what the hell happened to GITS after the two SAC series. I'm sure there's some intriguing political rhetoric and social dystopian content still, but they killed one of anime's golden gooses with going this path.
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2022-05-28, 14:24 | Link #92 | |
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This is Batou in his SAC days: This is Batou in 2045: If anything, it's the SAC one that looks like he's 70. The 2045 show actually made him look (much) younger . And this is Motoko in her SAC days: This is Motoko in 2045: Yeah, I don't see one being more idol than the other. If anything, 2045 Motoko actually has a more practical haircut for battle and she doesn't wear photoshoot-ready bathing suit most of the time like in SAC . Indeed.
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2022-05-29, 14:10 | Link #93 |
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I see the main complain is simply the fact the show doesn't try to mimic the 2D anime look. Fair enough but I personally see no problems with this. Trying to make 3DCG look like 2D animation always gives mixed results. I could count the shows that kinda nailed it with a single hand, and even then it just feels fake anyway. So I actually appreciate this show isn't even trying.
My only issue with the graphics was the lack of details in the character models and backgrounds in the first season, but that has largely been resolved in the second season.
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I can't see that Batou looks to be in his 70s, but he does look like a Ken doll in 2045, to add to his long-term castration complex. It's not bad CGI...but it's CGI. The more finely rendered, the more glaringly artificial; nothing like as expressive or humanised as Batou's previous designs. These are cyborgs, but the softness of the Major's 2045 face gives that impression much less effectively than the hard lines of traditional animation.
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Post-human breakdancing was technically very good, but it worked much better with the immediately threatening hand-to-hand combat of Blade Runner than showy barrages in SAC 2045. Not that Blade Runner was a very good anime, but fresher and more interesting than SAC 2045, despite an even older franchise. |
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And let's face it, if you rewatch SAC now, you'll notice that Motoko's face was already off-model as early as episode 4. After that, only some select episodes have the characters drawn consistently on-model. So it's not like SAC was this holy ground of handdrawn animation. And have you seen the bad CG cars in it? Quote:
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And no, that's not a joke portrayal of US government. They already killed thousands of innocents just in order to "kill terrorists" and covering their fuck ups IRL.
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And who said that the last arc represent the whole US country? The show only showed us that there's a group of US SEALs who aimed to kill the boy & the girl to erase the evidence. Of course they're just simply call them "the US" instead of "a certain faction of US military with a political interest in it". The show already considered the target audience to be smart enough to know. But I guess you're not part of that target audience
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