2010-05-17, 14:27 | Link #10042 | |
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But that's just an unfounded assumption on an observation I saw several months ago XD |
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2010-05-17, 14:46 | Link #10043 | |
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Ok theorizing time. Shannon heard a rumor about if the item that is in the shrine is broken your wish will be greated by Beatrice in return for doing this for her. Shannon wishes Battler would return, when she shouts "Grant my wish Beatrice!" Her wish is not granted and she gives up hope on magic and such, and creates her Beato friend to cope, before she falls for George. She at first falls for George just because he is the only guy to treat her with kindness and show any interest in her besides Battler. But she eventally does actually fall for George. The only time she cares about Battler's sin to her is in ep4, so clearly something big happens in that ep, which changes things. |
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2010-05-17, 14:51 | Link #10044 | |
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Other than that, though, I can't really imagine too many Shannon-Battler hints (putting aside Battler mentioning him being a knight on a white horse in Episode 3). Maybe she DID care about Battler's sin, but the circumstances only allowed her to mention it in Episode 4. The parents were all missing, so that might have something to do with it. |
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2010-05-17, 14:54 | Link #10045 | |
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2010-05-17, 15:01 | Link #10046 | |
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And yeah looking back at the eps she could. Ep1: Dies 1st Twilight? Ep2: Gets chased out of the parlor. So she never even has a chance to even try to say anything to Battler Ep3: Dies 1st Twilight Ep4: Mentions the sin, because she has the opportunity. It is possible. |
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2010-05-17, 15:14 | Link #10047 |
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Hmm. What if Battler's sin is actually a lot worse than a broken promise?
I'm sorry, but what I'm alarmed by is that Battler's sin is 6 years old, and Ange is six years old. From a genetic standpoint, let's think of it this way: (Assuming no hair dyes have been used *Kyrie does not have red hair *Rudolf does not have red hair *Asumu's hair color is...? *Battler's hair is red. *Ange's hair is red. Red hair could be a recessive gene. Therefore, if both Kyrie and Rudolf have recessive red-hair genes, then it's possible for the kids to have red hair. Ange is the daughter of Kyrie and Rudolf. At least, that's what we're led to believe. It is very unlikely that Kyrie and Rudolf gave birth to two red-haired kids. The odds are much more likely if Battler were to... you know. What if... oh god... this is going to sound absolutely terrible. I suspect that Battler had sexual relations with another female character on the show. This could very well have been Shannon, and Ange is Battler's sin. After all, if Shannon gave birth to Ange, then Shannon would have been 10 years old. I believe that this is old enough for childbirth, albeit barely. This conforms to the Shannon-Battler relationship, as well as explaining the circumstances behind Ange's birth (the six years coincidence). One problem with this is this red truth: Ange is Battler's brother. Even though they weren't in the same generation, they could have treated each other like siblings. ...I'm not trying to be a pervert here, just bringing to light an observation. If Jessica and Battler did love each other, yet Battler got close to Shannon to make Jessica jealous, this could come about. After all, he is Rudolf's son (a pervert). Eh, what do I know. My original idea was Battler impregnated his own mother. ...Or, it could very well have been Battler left the family registry because Rudolf impregnated Kyrie. Maybe the six years coincidence is just a red herring. |
2010-05-17, 15:24 | Link #10048 | |
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But I don't think the six years is a coincidence. I think; Battler leaves due to his dad having sex with Kyrie. And this caused Shannon to go emo, because the one person she thinks holds some compassion for her, betrays her hopes, and makes it seem like he doesn't care at all for her. |
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2010-05-17, 15:26 | Link #10049 | |
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Okay, I definitely like your theory better. I don't think Ryukishi07 seems to be the kind of guy to break those kind of social taboos... you know, the kinds with children. |
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2010-05-17, 15:31 | Link #10051 | ||
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2010-05-17, 15:36 | Link #10052 | |
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Let's think of it this way: Jessica and Battler loved each other, but were too afraid to mention it to each other. To "test the water" with Jessica, Battler made his promise to Shannon. Shannon fell in love with Battler. However, somewhere in this, Battler is told to kill Asumu. He does so, and is surprised to see that Rudolf gets together with Kyrie quite quickly. He notices that Kyrie becomes pregnant, and then becomes ashamed of himself; after all, he was the one who was responsible. He leaves the family register, which upsets both Jessica and Shannon. Therefore, his sin is actually killing Asumu, which created an avalanche effect and created the Rokkenjima that we know of today. Or, if Battler didn't kill anyone, then this: Jessica and Battler loved each other, but were too afraid to mention it to each other. To "test the water" with Jessica, Battler made his promise to Shannon. Battler finds out that Asumu is dead. He notices that Kyrie becomes pregnant, and then becomes ashamed of himself. He leaves the family register, which upsets both Jessica and Shannon. Therefore, his sin is breaking his promise with either Jessica or Shannon. |
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2010-05-17, 15:41 | Link #10053 | |
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2010-05-17, 15:46 | Link #10054 | |
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And for any claims of incest, I'll repeat: Elfen Lied did it too :P Of course, we don't have too much evidence about this. But still: a love triangle would be a good motive, or at least a good starting point for a murder plot to arise. As for the crime being on Rokkenjima, didn't Asumu come to the island, too? If Asumu died on the island, then there's no contradiction. Plus, no one would have mentioned it because it was declared a taboo; basically, they didn't want to bring it up. |
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2010-05-17, 16:03 | Link #10056 | |
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2010-05-17, 16:04 | Link #10057 | |
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Although I must say I am intrigued by the idea of BattlerxShannon, especially the hints behind it. |
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One thing I find interesting is that when Shannon said that Battler said the white horse thing she said he said this when he left. If he left earlier than everyone else maybe he made that promise to all of them as a farewell. Them being Shannon Jessica and Maria.
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