2009-08-09, 14:49 | Link #1001 | ||||||
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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How well a show entertains people who know the details......I think about this a lot. Presentation and filmmaking qualities are things I want to learn about, and we often ignore these things if a story seems interesting. Take this season's Umineko for example. It's a horribly done show that pays no attention to details, pace, or atmosphere. However, because the original story is mysterious, most viewers forgive or fail to notice the faults. Quote:
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This is probably where previous experience with the source hurt my enjoyment. However, the game was heavy in exposition and narration, and it gave the reader hours to appreciate each character's situation. In the adapted version, the characters generally act and respond the same way but the buildup isn't there. There's little breathing room -> almost like the writers follow a straight path and painstakingly calculate the time needed to go from Point A to B to C..........if that makes any sense. The director tries to compensate by heightening the emotion during key scenes, but that makes it worse for me. It's hard to convert a novel, but instead of methodically keeping key scenes and cutting expository fat, I guess I would favor a few original episodes to expand on characters. The Tony Stone arc helped a little, but even that focused on the action side of things. Quote:
What's interesting is that Phantom and Hayate don't just share Kuroda, but also most of the same writers. Hideki Shirane -> Phantom 05, Hayate 01/16/17 Kazuho Hyodo -> Phantom 02/07/12/16, Hayate 06/07/11/12/18 Shougo Yasukawa -> Phantom 03/10/14, Hayate 04/08 Tatsuya Takahashi -> Phantom 08/09/15, Hayate 02/03/13 Yousuke Kuroda -> Phantom 01/04/17, Hayate 10 Quote:
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2009-08-09, 15:08 | Link #1002 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Age: 38
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It's not a problem with direct conversions at all. It's just that people want new material, since they've already read/played the original. Nostalgia then comes in, and prevents them from feeling the same way towards the adaptation. However, when new material on current properties comes in, we get horrible stories that usually directly conflict with the source material, which ends up pissing everyone off. So really, there's no way to win. The Japanese audience wants moe blob, so that's what they get. The only other thing that seems to do well is shounen shows like Dragonball Kai, One Piece, and Naruto. Then there's the fact that many fans buy the manga, which is ridiculously cheap in Japan (about $4 for a volume, or $2.50 for a magazine). However, the anime versions are ridiculously expensive, coming in at approximately $10-20 per episode. It's really only the die-hards that buy everything up, and once they either run out of money, die, or nerd-rage out, the anime industry will likely either collapse or be forced to go into a rapid restructuring. |
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2009-08-09, 16:55 | Link #1004 |
Yuuki Aoi
Join Date: Jul 2004
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@orion
Spoiler for ep18:
@coroloro -- From the start, there has been something about the way Sawashiro Miyuki is voicing Cal that has made me leery of her. Spoiler for ep19:
@TJR -- Thanks for the interesting and informative responses. They give me more angles on the show. @FireChick -- I checked the official site and 2channel and couldn't find any suggestion of a Miyukichi CD. Yet.
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2009-08-09, 20:22 | Link #1009 |
Waiting for more taiyuki!
Join Date: Jan 2004
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18's been out for a while now. Why are you still using spoiler tags?
Actually, the thought of commiting suicide was next on the agenda. He was waiting for Elen to kill him at the ole stomping grounds. Claudia left/dying, Elen in the hands of SM (still jealous of SM aren't we Reiji?) and Cal... Now, if he was a little more observant, he should have noticed she was wearing shorts that time and not the skirt. Honest mistakes can happen. Elen was more observant and Reiji didn't have Elen reminding him about monitoring his environment. (I think he got a little sloppy after Elen went missing. ) Cut the poor teen assassin some slack. Oh yeah.. This pic fits ... Reiji considers himself in SM's shadow even when he's the only one there (insecure male) and has not been true to himself yet imo.
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2009-08-10, 00:54 | Link #1014 |
The players president
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Annandale, Virginia
Age: 35
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I just saw episode 19, most of it was a recap, with some new added scenes and the last five minutes which totally pissed me off.
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2009-08-10, 15:39 | Link #1018 | |
LOL'ing at t3h old bags
Join Date: Oct 2008
Age: 35
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Keep him alive. Drill in nails in all of his fingers one by one, cut one third of his fingernails, stab his eyeballs, skin him, stitch his eyes shut, stitch his mouth shut, gouge his kneejoints, cripple him, destroy the object of his obsessions, torture him 24/7. Keep him half dead every minute of his life. Do whatever it takes to make him scream. Never let him die. Never let it end. Torture over and over. XD Ahhh now that's better. Ellen should ask Reiji to help her do that. It'll be their perfect past time. |
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action, eroge, gunfights, seinen |
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