2013-10-30, 17:15 | Link #1002 |
Honya-kun
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Since no one mentioned it yet: Sentai Filmworks has picked up the show.
NOTE: The summary was written before the person who wrote it watched episode 2. :P
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2013-10-30, 17:28 | Link #1003 | |
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Also: if you can't apply the heroes journey to a story, that's a stryke against the "heroes journey", not against the story. It's supposed to be an analytical tool after all. (Don't like it myself - too universalist.) |
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2013-10-30, 17:32 | Link #1004 |
Robo Rampage
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If so then where was the call to action phase? Where the resisting the call?
This is off topic so please PM if you wish to do so, but can you PM some other examples of stories that don't follow the heroes journey and do so without detriment?
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2013-10-30, 18:20 | Link #1005 | ||
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But on the presonal level, the anime makes a big deal about Shiroe's reluctance to join a guild, even though his class is a support class - he's not into it for soloing. So what's going on? On that call, his refusal to join a guild is the backdrop for his story: then, a guild asks for his help. They don't ask him to go and fetch the girl; instead they ask him to stand in and lead the guild in their absence. So in a sense, Shiroe goes on an adventure because he refuses: the macro and micro level work at cross purposes. From a heroe's journey point of view, I'd think that's quite clever. Quote:
For example: We're talking about Log Horizon, now. You seem to see some flaws, and you relate them to the "heroes journey". Me? I don't think the "heroe's journey" is all that useful, but I my hunch is that it's actually fairly easy to use it to analyse the show. I didn't properly think it through, I admit, but what does that say? I could read up on the heroe's journey to refresh my memory, and then I could write a detailled analysis of Log Horizon with that in mind. And then you can disagree with my interpretation of it (or agree, maybe, who knows). But what does any of this have to do with whether the story is flawed or not? My main problem with the heroe's journey isn't that I think it's wrong. It's that I think it's either too vague, or too restrictive (depending on how strict and literal you are with the categories) to be useful. Considering this, I'm not even sure how to approach making such a list. I mean what about Pride and Prejudice? All Quiet on the Western Front? Waiting For Godot? At what point is putting a story on such a list obviously silly? (Listing Waiting for Godot would be silly, since it's obviously designed as an anti-story. But where do I draw the line?) I do think applying the heroe's journey to Log Horizon is easier than applying it to any I've mentioned above. It's just that I don't know whether you'd even attempt to apply it to any of them. Many wouldn't. If you're really interested in the conversation, send me a PM. I'll reply as best I can. |
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2013-10-30, 20:19 | Link #1006 | ||
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tl;dr I get that you don't like this show. You have your standards. Your crit is valid. But please stop comparing this show from other shows so much and trying to convince everyone and their moms that this show is so absolutely terrible. As they say, one man's trash may be another man's treasure and all that. Let them enjoy it the way they want to |
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2013-10-30, 20:25 | Link #1007 | |
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Also let's make this clear. Zabi, do you actually think this show is absolutely terrible?
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2013-10-30, 20:32 | Link #1008 |
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Of course not. The charachters are nice, the animation isn't amazing but ignores everything I actively dislike, the direction is pretty good, and the sense of internally consistent logic is top notch. It ignores most of the annoying moeisms strangaling anime, the entire cast is college students, it understands the importatance of sociology, economics, and politics, and there are alot of other things I like about it.
I don't rip apart shows I think are iredeemably bad. You will never see me show my face in the Walkure Romanze thread. It just grates on me when potential is lost to huge glaring flaws the like that keeps this series mediocre.
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2013-10-30, 20:37 | Link #1009 | |
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2013-10-31, 00:07 | Link #1010 |
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Why not let's just all agree that there are flaws in the work that can be possibly done better but it felt lacking. The studio tried to adapt the novel into anime but they can't do all the internal monologue of Shiroe. It will be boring and the huge info dump of the novel will be bad in transition to anime. So they improvise and change a bit. Though some are glaring flaws like the battle in Susukino. But at least they do average in the development and stay true to the character.
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2013-10-31, 00:35 | Link #1011 |
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Actually, judging from what Aohige's revealed in the LN thread, and the running translation of book 2 right now in 4chan, Log Horizon is surprisingly low on first person monologues. In fact, its written in the 3rd person, which is another surprise (many LNs take the first person point of view because it's easier).
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2013-10-31, 00:39 | Link #1012 | |
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2013-10-31, 02:49 | Link #1013 | |
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There are monologue though its probably not limited to Shiroe. Its probably proper to call it more narration to the situation.
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2013-10-31, 04:03 | Link #1014 | |
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Also, there's a new arc when they get back to Akiba next episode that does with a sticky issue. |
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2013-10-31, 05:22 | Link #1015 |
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Preview shots for episode 5 is out. Touya confirmed for next episode: http://www.nhk.or.jp/anime-blog/0120/171565.html
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2013-10-31, 06:38 | Link #1016 |
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I figured they'll follow the manga mostly, so I was surprised.
The last episode ended exactly at the end of chapter 7, but that preview shot is from chapter 10. They might shuffle some things around though.
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2013-10-31, 07:43 | Link #1018 | |
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