2009-08-03, 08:29 | Link #1002 | |
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but I thought she is going to say something plain like "suki" or "aishiteru" but no ... she tries some kind of broken english (although it was fluently) hahaha xD |
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2009-08-03, 09:46 | Link #1003 |
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That had to be one of the most awkward, funny and unique confessions i have ever seen. I loved every min of it Senjogahara's is a very unique character there is not in between with her you either like her or you dont. I for one like her shes boring to say the least. Her explanation for why she like Araragi was so damn funny i had to rewind and watch it again. It took me a while to understand everything she was saying but eventually i got it. I pretty much just link it with those movies where someone gets saved and falls in love with the person who saved them. This one is a little more extreme though Loved Araragi's answers to her confession. He basically accepted that they are not in a relationship but answered in his own way. I know i couldnt say no to her. I look forward to more of her loving verbal abuse.
CONGRATULATIONS "had me in tears laughing for about 20min" Great episode and looks like our loli is back as well with a an upgrade. If you couldnt tell i loved the episode.
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2009-08-03, 12:24 | Link #1006 |
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Or decide to leave you. But I think the later(stapler treatment) is more probable. Honestly, Araragi could thank god for being former vampire.
It's funny about Senjogahara her uniqueness comes from a weakness she's relucant to admit. She closed herself in for years and has a hard time expressing emotions or her thoughts honestly. Her socialisation skills are fairly weak too. That's why she's unintentionally(?) harms people with her words. Perhaps she has high pride and refuses to admit it. But that's why she's an interesting character(same with Araragi who seems to me a combination of Kyon[Haruhi] and Sunohara[Clannad]...at least he inherited Kyon's harem skills) |
2009-08-03, 13:07 | Link #1007 | |||
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But Saitou Chiwa has been truly exceptional in this show. Just listening to her enunciate Senjougahara's lines literally sends shivers down my spine. Take, for example, that one tiny, almost breathless, exhalation she makes while Senjougahara muses on the possibility that she's "forcing" herself to like Araragi. Senjougahara oozes so much classical sex appeal in that one line that her luminosity borders on Marilyn Monroe incandescence. Saitou-san's acting, together with the tremendous amount of artistic talent that has been poured into this production, makes this show an absolute joy to watch. (No offence to all the other characters, of course. They have all been lovable but, in my strong opinion, Senjougahara is literally running laps around them!) For once, I'm not even sure where to begin digging into the deeper meanings behind the imagery and themes presented thus far. Here's a tentative start, with reference to sirn's post: Quote:
But, at the same time, a book is a book and anime is anime -- they're two different media with different strengths and, in my opinion, Bakemonogatari is jam-packed with a cascade of visual imagery that plays to anime's unique strengths as a storytelling medium. Much of it is chaotic, of course, and a lot of it is arguably too pretentious for many viewers' tastes. But when they do work, they often work incredibly well. For a start, consider what this blogger (if you're a member of this forum, say hi!) noticed about the way Senjougahara actually "sees" Hachikuji at the playground, versus what we, as viewers, think she was seeing at the time. This was at the scene where Senjougahara explains to Araragi how different conclusions are reached when we start out thinking from different viewpoints. Juxtapose her observation with the way the characters "appeared" to be standing at that moment, and you can immediately see how clever the visual direction had been -- the producers had taken a leaf right out of director Shyamalan's book, deceptively leading viewers into an illusory viewpoint through the use of carefully positioned camera angles. And, then, there's the example that SeijiSensei raised a few pages back: Quote:
I'm beginning to get the impression that the wide open space is meant to emphasise the varying degrees of loneliness that all the characters feel: Senjougahara's anxious desire not to appear strange again; Hachikuji's deliberate rejection of company so as not to lead people astry; and, lastly, Araragi's feeling of being ostracised by his sisters. That's another example of visual imagery that had been used very effectively, I believe. To me, it's an example of how the appropriate use of visual technique can effectively encapsulate the essence of a literary story. There are plenty of other things to pick up, I'm sure. Most of them appear to be merely for flair and effect. But there will definitely be a few that are meant to have deliberate meaning. The images are "everywhere and nowhere at the same" time. So, how many more do you see? |
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2009-08-03, 13:24 | Link #1008 |
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Getting back to the scene in the image above, the novel states in Araragi's narrative that the reason Senjougahara didn't accept the note was that she couldn't see it. It was part of Hachikuji's existence, making it invisible to her.
Now, from Senjougahara's point of view, all she sees is Araragi holding out his arm to her. What was her reaction to this? He clearly wouldn't reach out and hold out the note behind her (like we see), because it would seem strangely insane, but I started wondering if her interpretation was "Hey, does he want to hug me?" and she closed in (unseen by the "camera"), stood there for a moment and noticed that he wasn't doing anything, then realized her mistake and stepped back, pretending to be disgusted by him? There's nothing about it in the novel, so it seems an anime original version of the scene, open to its own speculation.
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2009-08-03, 15:25 | Link #1010 | |
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HAHA your not the only one I think I rewatched that scene atleast 4 times and then a 5th to get screen caps of it lol. When I saw this did anyone else have"YOUR DRILL IS THE DRILL THAT SHALL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!“ go through your head. Also @ TinyRedLeaf thanks for that blog link I really enjoyed reading what insight that blogger had to say it basically matched with everything I had been thinking through the episode and glade to see I was on track with most of what I had been speculating. I also didn't take note till I read that about how Hachikuji wasn't visable till Senjōgahara climbed the stairs its such a small detail that I totally overlooked that part. |
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2009-08-03, 17:34 | Link #1014 | |
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2009-08-03, 18:19 | Link #1015 | |
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Others have already taken note about the geometry of bars and shapes in every shot, but not many have focused on the role that colour plays. The colour palette of the background is that of primary colours—that is red, yellow and blue—set at first on a neutral, gray background. The effect of an RYB palette is in a way rather energetic; yellow can leap towards you by intensity alone, but blues and reds are stark enough for the eye to jump from one to the other. Not one colour can truly dominate the other two. Interesting to note here, is that these colours are used only for the park, and even when the sun is setting these colours still stand out in each shot. No such colour scheme is present on the streets when they set out in search of Mayoi's mother. It is no accident that extensive exposition takes place in the park. The geometry of the bars also connotes movement—that is, movement within symmetry or balance. Not one element in the background tries to dominate your attention. If the characters weren't present at all, your gaze would have been everywhere (or nowhere), balanced across the space of the picture all at the same time. The neutral background, also symmetrical and visually balanced in its own terms (the never-ending rows of windows of apartment buildings), only serves to make these coloured bars pop. In other words, with bars that go everywhere and nowhere, there is no specific focal point; no point of dominance that grabs at your attention. Nothing is emphasized over the other in the background. This also reflected in the symmetry or balance demonstrated by shape and form (the top view of the park comes to mind). I wonder if this is just me, or if this has something to do with the point of this episode—about the multiplicity of viewpoints and perspective, in that when all viewpoints are considered, only then can one see the entire picture. |
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2009-08-03, 22:08 | Link #1018 |
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All that can be said about this episode is that it's the best so far... and admittedly, the one I was most anticipating, mostly due to the spoiler about Araragi and Senjougahara that I peeked at before the mods got to it
and to think we now have to wait an extra week for our Beauty and Beast...
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2009-08-04, 00:03 | Link #1019 |
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Finally caught up with the anime.
It remains to be impressive, there is not much to say that hasn't already been said. Like Sorrow-K said, the characters are quite charming because they simply say what is on their mind and don't really hide their feelings.
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2009-08-04, 00:13 | Link #1020 |
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Well, I sure as hell don't like it when they resort to images of real people. Can't really say why, though; Just wish they'll stop using them. >_<
Regardless, I am still prety sold on the show and as pretty much everyone has already said, it is so because of the characters.
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