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Nemesis · 2015-05-04, 07:04

Given how seemingly hard it is to farm for Roma,is it actually worth trying for her this time,or should i wait until she is probably more available later on?

AC-Phoenix · 2015-05-04, 07:09

Farming her isn't really hard. You build a carrier fleet with 2 subs and go through the anchorage node - thats really all there is to it.

demino_hellsin · 2015-05-04, 07:16

not sure what I was looking at when the 500 AS+ hit me in the face. I don't have enough Reppuus for that kind of business. Does superiority prevent enough damage or does it have to be supremacy?

Seihai · 2015-05-04, 07:24

I personally only had around 400 AS for E-4 (some people had 450~480). Still more than enough.

Rocksmash · 2015-05-04, 07:24

Sigh.... what's the point of me sparkling a boss support fleet when it completely miss?

AC-Phoenix · 2015-05-04, 07:32

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

not sure what I was looking at when the 500 AS+ hit me in the face. I don't have enough Reppuus for that kind of business. Does superiority prevent enough damage or does it have to be supremacy?

516 is just for superiority.
While it is indeed reducing a huge bunch of incoming damage from air strikes, and increases your own carrier damage since you will loose less planes.
Other than that its nice to have but not entirely necessary.

You definitely want superiority though for artiliary spotting.

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Originally Posted by Rocksmash

Sigh.... what's the point of me sparkling a boss support fleet when it completely miss?

You gain evasion.

Kakurin · 2015-05-04, 07:34

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Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

If I had just known about the Sendai/Bucky combo when I did E5... That could have saved me so many buckets...

Not really, spending three slots on a CL, a DD and a sub who have a hard time damaging the boss is not a good option. You may have taken fewer damage by avoiding the air node, but you would've needed more times at the boss node.

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

not sure what I was looking at when the 500 AS+ hit me in the face. I don't have enough Reppuus for that kind of business. Does superiority prevent enough damage or does it have to be supremacy?

Normal superiority is more than enough. I had 265 (need to switch a kanbaku for a Type 62 for the final run though) air power and it was a cakewalk.

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Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

You gain evasion.

Not really useful for a support fleet. I never bother sparkling anybody of a support fleet other than the flagship.

KBTKaiser · 2015-05-04, 07:44

If anything, the Choukai/Ryuujou Hotline would have been more effective than Sendai/Fubuki, since you can shove a Sanshiki on Choukai and still be effective while Ryuujou you load up with Torp bombers since Akagi/Kaga's handling Air Control thus you have more of an Alpha Strike.

Rocksmash · 2015-05-04, 07:44

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Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

You gain evasion.

You mean the enemy fleet?

They (except 1 miserable little DD) practically dodge everything my main fleet threw at them, leaving my escort fleet to deal with them. It didn't end well for my escort fleet.

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Originally Posted by Kakurin-san

Not really useful for a support fleet. I never bother sparkling anybody of a support fleet other than the flagship.

What about normal support?

Seihai · 2015-05-04, 07:55

I only sparkle FS of a boss support fleet myself. For node support I do tend to sparkle both FS and the 2nd ship (usually both DDs). If I feel lazy I only sparkle FS though.

Kakurin · 2015-05-04, 08:03

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Originally Posted by KBTKaiser

If anything, the Choukai/Ryuujou Hotline would have been more effective than Sendai/Fubuki, since you can shove a Sanshiki on Choukai and still be effective while Ryuujou you load up with Torp bombers since Akagi/Kaga's handling Air Control thus you have more of an Alpha Strike.

I personally still prefer the 2 CAV approach (Mogami/Mikuma or Suzuya/Kumano). Even if you use a sub you can still have 2 BBs and 2 CAVs loaded with Sanshikis. That's pretty good damage against the Anchorage Suiki.

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Originally Posted by Rocksmash

What about normal support?

More or less the same, flagship sparkling. Too lazy to sparkle any others. To improve accuracy I'd rather rely on equipment.

demino_hellsin · 2015-05-04, 08:03

OKay so tentative line-up and I'll just mess around with the equips when I get to it.

E4 fleet:
main:
- Hiryuu kai 2 (CV)
- souryuu kai 2 (CV)
- Taihou kai (CV)
- Ryujou kai 2 (CVL)
- hiei kai (FBB)
- mutsu kai (BB)
escort:
- ayanami kai 2 (DD)
- verniy (DD)
- jintsuu kai (CL)
- myoukou kai (CA)
- fusou kai 2 (BBV)
- yamashiro kai 2 (BBV)

E5:
- fubuki kai (DD)
- sendai kai (CL)
- mogami kai (CAV)
- haruna kai (FBB)
- kongou kai (FBB)
- super KTKM (CLT)

considering dropping mogami kai to put in Ooi kai 2 (CLT) are there any branch rules that'll screw me here?

I know that Fubuki/Sendai combi is a bad investment but all the other options are either unavailable or at a level so low they aren't even kai, let alone modernized.

Kakurin · 2015-05-04, 08:06

You want to go against the Anchorage Suiki at E5 without air superiority? Additionally Kitakami's usefulness at E5 is pretty limited. Also, I don't think you can put BBVs into the escort fleet for E4. Only FBBs allowed.

KBTKaiser · 2015-05-04, 08:07

Demino, where is your CV for E5? You are going to be utterly destroyed in the opening air strike.

EDIT: And yeah, up to 2 FBBs in E-4's escort fleet. If anything, I'd put Fusou and Yamashirou in fleet 1 and put in what kongous you have left for escort instead. Additionally, Kongou firepower(except kirishima K2) is a little under Nagato class, so you probably want Mutsu for E-5 what with "Nagato-class' armor is not for show" on top of Nagato-class gaining bonus accuracy with 41 cannons.

EDIT2: And besides, we have what? another 2 weeks of event time?

demino_hellsin · 2015-05-04, 08:13

I don't have FBBs to spare though and the suggested line-up on the general event page had 2 FBB in there.

Crap, forgot about the CVs for E5. I'll just plug Akagi and Kaga there over KTKM and Mogami?

Looks like I can plug in the CLTs but I'm guessing they aren't that great for E4 either?

Sheba · 2015-05-04, 08:15

You'll want a CV/L and a submarine (equiped with turbine and damecon) for E5.

Seihai · 2015-05-04, 08:15

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

OKay so tentative line-up

Try to make something like this for setup. Keep the better BBs for E-5 and a good CV for E-5 as well.

E4
Main:
2 BB
4 CV
Escort:
CL
2 DD
2 CA
CLT

E5
2 BB
2 CAV (preferrably Mogami+Mikuma or Kumano+Suzuya)
CV
SS w/ 2 damecons or 1 damecon + turbine, but at least 1 damecon.

Kakurin · 2015-05-04, 08:16

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

Crap, forgot about the CVs for E5. I'll just plug Akagi and Kaga there over KTKM and Mogami?

Looks like I can plug in the CLTs but I'm guessing they aren't that great for E4 either?

One is enough. Replace Kitakami with Kaga. You can keep Mogami. If you run into trouble getting past night node I you could think about replacing Mogami with a sub, although I think going in with only two BBs with Sanshikidans that can really damage the boss is cutting it too close.

E4's Harbour Suiki is a land base as well. Meaning Kitakami's torpedo stats won't do her any good at night. I used Kiso at E4, she still has a use simply helping in whittling down the Abyssals, but it is debatable whether it's worth it.

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Originally Posted by Sheba

You'll want a CV/L and a submarine (equiped with turbine and damecon) for E5.

As I said, I don't think going with a sub is a viable option if you go with the Fubuki/Sendai combination. Even if you give Fubuki the WG42, it still forces the majority of the load to take out the Anchorage Suki onto the two BBs.

Rocksmash · 2015-05-04, 08:18

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Originally Posted by Seihai

I only sparkle FS of a boss support fleet myself. For node support I do tend to sparkle both FS and the 2nd ship (usually both DDs). If I feel lazy I only sparkle FS though.

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Originally Posted by Kakurin-san

More or less the same, flagship sparkling. Too lazy to sparkle any others. To improve accuracy I'd rather rely on equipment.

Thanks for the input! Now I feel like all the hours i spent on sparkling is a waste of time.

KBTKaiser · 2015-05-04, 08:20

One of them is enough. I loaded Kaga with Reppuu Kai and Reppuu 601 in the first two slots and Ryusei 601 on her massive 3rd slot and Saiuns on her last. Large comfy margin for Air Advantage/Superiority.

The idea for E-5 is to line up the biggest guns you can against it.
Also, on E-4, you'll need to remember NOT TO USE red Dive Bombers or the Carriers won't contribute to hurting the boss. This also applies to the E-5 boss.

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Nemesis Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006	Given how seemingly hard it is to farm for Roma,is it actually worth trying for her this time,or should i wait until she is probably more available later on? __________________ Kancolle profile http://myanimelist.net/profile/rtys8

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AC-Phoenix Detective Join Date: Aug 2010 Age: 36	Farming her isn't really hard. You build a carrier fleet with 2 subs and go through the anchorage node - thats really all there is to it. __________________ Those who forget about the past are condemned to repeat it - Santayana Sidenote: I'm seemingly too dumb for my current keyboard, so if you see the same character twice in a row, when it doesn't belong there just ignore it.

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demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	not sure what I was looking at when the 500 AS+ hit me in the face. I don't have enough Reppuus for that kind of business. Does superiority prevent enough damage or does it have to be supremacy? __________________ Official art: They know what we want.

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Seihai スマイリウム Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Iwakawa Base Age: 32	I personally only had around 400 AS for E-4 (some people had 450~480). Still more than enough. __________________

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Seihai スマイリウム Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Iwakawa Base Age: 32	I only sparkle FS of a boss support fleet myself. For node support I do tend to sparkle both FS and the 2nd ship (usually both DDs). If I feel lazy I only sparkle FS though. __________________

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Rocksmash Trapped within boundaries Join Date: Nov 2007	Sigh.... what's the point of me sparkling a boss support fleet when it completely miss?

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KBTKaiser Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 39	If anything, the Choukai/Ryuujou Hotline would have been more effective than Sendai/Fubuki, since you can shove a Sanshiki on Choukai and still be effective while Ryuujou you load up with Torp bombers since Akagi/Kaga's handling Air Control thus you have more of an Alpha Strike.

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demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	OKay so tentative line-up and I'll just mess around with the equips when I get to it. E4 fleet: main: - Hiryuu kai 2 (CV) - souryuu kai 2 (CV) - Taihou kai (CV) - Ryujou kai 2 (CVL) - hiei kai (FBB) - mutsu kai (BB) escort: - ayanami kai 2 (DD) - verniy (DD) - jintsuu kai (CL) - myoukou kai (CA) - fusou kai 2 (BBV) - yamashiro kai 2 (BBV) E5: - fubuki kai (DD) - sendai kai (CL) - mogami kai (CAV) - haruna kai (FBB) - kongou kai (FBB) - super KTKM (CLT) considering dropping mogami kai to put in Ooi kai 2 (CLT) are there any branch rules that'll screw me here? I know that Fubuki/Sendai combi is a bad investment but all the other options are either unavailable or at a level so low they aren't even kai, let alone modernized. __________________ Official art: They know what we want.

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Kakurin 大佐 Join Date: Jun 2013	You want to go against the Anchorage Suiki at E5 without air superiority? Additionally Kitakami's usefulness at E5 is pretty limited. Also, I don't think you can put BBVs into the escort fleet for E4. Only FBBs allowed. __________________

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KBTKaiser Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 39	Demino, where is your CV for E5? You are going to be utterly destroyed in the opening air strike. EDIT: And yeah, up to 2 FBBs in E-4's escort fleet. If anything, I'd put Fusou and Yamashirou in fleet 1 and put in what kongous you have left for escort instead. Additionally, Kongou firepower(except kirishima K2) is a little under Nagato class, so you probably want Mutsu for E-5 what with "Nagato-class' armor is not for show" on top of Nagato-class gaining bonus accuracy with 41 cannons. EDIT2: And besides, we have what? another 2 weeks of event time?

2015-05-04, 08:13	Link #10275
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	I don't have FBBs to spare though and the suggested line-up on the general event page had 2 FBB in there. Crap, forgot about the CVs for E5. I'll just plug Akagi and Kaga there over KTKM and Mogami? Looks like I can plug in the CLTs but I'm guessing they aren't that great for E4 either? __________________ Official art: They know what we want.

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Sheba Shitpost Gremlin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost Age: 44	You'll want a CV/L and a submarine (equiped with turbine and damecon) for E5. __________________

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KBTKaiser Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 39	One of them is enough. I loaded Kaga with Reppuu Kai and Reppuu 601 in the first two slots and Ryusei 601 on her massive 3rd slot and Saiuns on her last. Large comfy margin for Air Advantage/Superiority. The idea for E-5 is to line up the biggest guns you can against it. Also, on E-4, you'll need to remember NOT TO USE red Dive Bombers or the Carriers won't contribute to hurting the boss. This also applies to the E-5 boss.