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ChainLegacy · 2016-03-01, 21:24

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Originally Posted by sayde

On a side note, due to the differences between Universe 6 and 7, I'm calling it now. It's not that Universe 6's Saiyan's can't go Super Saiyan, it's just that no Saiyan in their universe has ever been pushed hard enough to discover the transformation. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it for now.

I think it's either this or they only have godly ki. Cabba seemed pretty unambiguous in saying that he's never seen anything like this, and was genuinely surprised (though he had a potentially suspicious dejected look at the end when he denies ever seeing a SSJ before).

The lack of a tail is an interesting variable, no great ape form, and we don't know if that has any impact on other Saiyan transformations.

sayde · 2016-03-01, 23:19

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Originally Posted by ChainLegacy

The lack of a tail is an interesting variable, no great ape form, and we don't know if that has any impact on other Saiyan transformations.

That's a good point. I mean I figured, if they're all Saiyan's, they should share the same genetics that make the SSJ transformation possible, regardless of what universe they originate from. However, the lack of a tail does sort of lend itself to the possibility that there may indeed be enough genetic differences among Saiyans to make the SSJ transformation impossible (which could prove my theory wrong).

But I do sure hope I'm not wrong.

Kyero Fox · 2016-03-02, 08:29

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Originally Posted by sayde

On a side note, due to the differences between Universe 6 and 7, I'm calling it now. It's not that Universe 6's Saiyan's can't go Super Saiyan, it's just that no Saiyan in their universe has ever been pushed hard enough to discover the transformation. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it for now.

Yea that's my assumption. None of them had some tyrant monster destroy their planet and friends.

VTHokiePride · 2016-03-02, 23:51

Since Goku was thrown of the ring, he can't fight anymore right? I was really hoping for a fight where he went SSG mode on Champa's fighters. He's too soft.

Nvis · 2016-03-03, 00:54

Spoiler for spoiler/spec:

But that guy with his arms folded and eyes closed most of the time seems to make me disagree.

Wonder if there's a Universe 7 of this guy.

BTW, since it's 3 vs 5, shouldn't Team Beerus get 2 "Extra" lives? Or 1 extra life since Buu failed the written exam.

Then Goku can redeem himself.

ChainLegacy · 2016-03-03, 09:09

I think it's very likely Goku will be back in some capacity. I don't see how giving him a second chance to fight, filling up the empty fifth slot, would work, though. Champa definitely wouldn't be on board for that, so someone on his team would need to do something to break the rules to justify it.

Another option is Goku is done with the tournament, but like with the Buu saga, this tournament is only a prelude to a greater conflict, so Goku will have plenty of fighting chances if that's the case.

Robotech Master · 2016-03-03, 15:44

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Originally Posted by Nvis

Spoiler for spoiler/spec:

But that guy with his arms folded and eyes closed most of the time seems to make me disagree.

Wonder if there's a Universe 7 of this guy.

BTW, since it's 3 vs 5, shouldn't Team Beerus get 2 "Extra" lives? Or 1 extra life since Buu failed the written exam.

Then Goku can redeem himself.

It was Vados who said Frost was the strongest in Universe 6, so I think that's *officially* true. The disinterested guy, Hit, is probably the strongest but he's probably never disclosed that. Either he transforms or powers up or removes a seal, etc. etc. you know the deal.

I don't know if Goku will get a Mulligan at the end, but it's also possible that the tournament gets either interrupted or followed up by some evil plot, as is pretty common with these kinds of tournament arcs, and Goku has to step in to save the day.

Say, for example, maybe Hit doesn't really care about the tournament and only agreed to get the Super Dragon Balls, so the final fight of the arc is against Hit again, but outside of the tournament rules.

The robot is a weird wild card too. The Saiyan could end up discovering Super Saiyan or some equivalent during the tournament, but not sure how you follow up on Frost with a mech.

grecefar · 2016-03-03, 15:49

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Originally Posted by VTHokiePride

Since Goku was thrown of the ring, he can't fight anymore right? I was really hoping for a fight where he went SSG mode on Champa's fighters. He's too soft.

Soft no, Overconfident and that played against him. Whis warned him about that.

Kanon · 2016-03-03, 16:31

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Originally Posted by grecefar

Soft no, Overconfident and that played against him. Whis warned him about that.

He was soft. He refused to deal the finishing blow to Frost because he "seems like a good guy".

Sixth · 2016-03-03, 19:28

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Originally Posted by ChainLegacy

I think it's either this or they only have godly ki. Cabba seemed pretty unambiguous in saying that he's never seen anything like this, and was genuinely surprised (though he had a potentially suspicious dejected look at the end when he denies ever seeing a SSJ before).

The lack of a tail is an interesting variable, no great ape form, and we don't know if that has any impact on other Saiyan transformations.

What if the saiyan U6 can turned into SSJ4 (with new name)?

It would be nice way to bring SSJ4 into the game.

n0m@n · 2016-03-03, 19:42

I really dont want SSJ4 to appear in this series. That's just GT exclusive form which i want to stay that way. Nor do I want any future refference or a homeage to it in SUPER.

Sixth · 2016-03-03, 22:24

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Originally Posted by n0m@n

I really dont want SSJ4 to appear in this series. That's just GT exclusive form which i want to stay that way. Nor do I want any future refference or a homeage to it in SUPER.

Well but U6 saiyan certainly need something to compete with U6 saiyan. SSJ is out of question because they didn't know about it.

chaos_animagic · 2016-03-04, 03:41

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Originally Posted by noobita

Well but U6 saiyan certainly need something to compete with U6 saiyan. SSJ is out of question because they didn't know about it.

Well, U6 Saiyans also apparently never had "tails" (the guy doesn't even know what Vegeta was talking about when he mentioned "where your tail?")

So I don't think they're based on "half monkeys" (which is basically what SSJ4 is)

Sixth · 2016-03-04, 08:48

Then how about this:

Vegeta: Are you ready to dance with Prince of all Saiyan ...
Cabba: Kaio-Ken!
Vegeta: Kaio-what? *get punched*
Vegeta: Enough of this *enter SSJ*
Cabba: So overwhelming..I'm guess I have no choice...Kaio-Ken times 10!!!!
Vegeta: Times-what? *get kicked*
Vegeta: Fck this shit! Final Flash!!!!!!
Cabba: Kaio-Ken...
Vegeta: No...
Cabba: Times..
Vegeta: NO NO NO NO
Cabba: 100!!!!
Vegeta: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Goku: Never know that kaio-ken is THAT good. Why am I abandoned this technique again?
Picolo: Better question is..why am I not learning this?
Humans: Indeed..why aren't any of us learning this again?

For those who didn't get the joke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUIdITrKR4o

GDB · 2016-03-04, 09:34

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Originally Posted by noobita

Well but U6 saiyan certainly need something to compete with U6 saiyan.

No they don't. He just has to compete with Piccolo, beat him, and then get clobbered by Vegeta.

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Originally Posted by noobita

Then how about this:

No.

Kyero Fox · 2016-03-04, 13:02

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Originally Posted by noobita

Picolo: Better question is..why am I not learning this?
Humans: Indeed..why aren't any of us learning this again?

It bugs me none learned the technique, goku could be teaching. =\

Sixth · 2016-03-04, 19:20

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

It bugs me none learned the technique, goku could be teaching. =\

Goku could even teach them (especially Gohan) instant tranmission but he didn't. Im guess he is just selfish.

Kanon · 2016-03-05, 09:27

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Originally Posted by noobita

Goku could even teach them (especially Gohan) instant tranmission but he didn't. Im guess he is just selfish.

I've always wondered why nobody asked him to teach them that technique. It's super useful.

GDB · 2016-03-05, 09:52

They're proud Martial Artists! They would never want to copy another fighter's technique. That's why most of them use the very unique Kamehameha.

That said, I liked Team4Star's reasoning for this. If I recall, it was like, he gained the ability to use it from eating their food or something trite like that. Makes more sense than not teaching it to at least Gohan.

n0m@n · 2016-03-05, 23:59

Spoiler for 34:

2016-03-02, 23:51	Link #1024
VTHokiePride Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Washington DC Age: 29	Since Goku was thrown of the ring, he can't fight anymore right? I was really hoping for a fight where he went SSG mode on Champa's fighters. He's too soft. __________________

2016-03-03, 00:54	Link #1025
Nvis Where are the good animes Join Date: Dec 2003	Spoiler for spoiler/spec: Thought I saw somewhere that Frost was supposedly the strongest in Universe 6. Think Champa or his assistant girl said it. But that guy with his arms folded and eyes closed most of the time seems to make me disagree. Wonder if there's a Universe 7 of this guy. BTW, since it's 3 vs 5, shouldn't Team Beerus get 2 "Extra" lives? Or 1 extra life since Buu failed the written exam. Then Goku can redeem himself.

2016-03-04, 08:48	Link #1034
Sixth Hu Tao Join Date: Oct 2006	Then how about this: Vegeta: Are you ready to dance with Prince of all Saiyan ... Cabba: Kaio-Ken! Vegeta: Kaio-what? *get punched* Vegeta: Enough of this enter SSJ Cabba: So overwhelming..I'm guess I have no choice...Kaio-Ken times 10!!!! Vegeta: Times-what? *get kicked* Vegeta: Fck this shit! Final Flash!!!!!! Cabba: Kaio-Ken... Vegeta: No... Cabba: Times.. Vegeta: NO NO NO NO Cabba: 100!!!! Vegeta: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Goku: Never know that kaio-ken is THAT good. Why am I abandoned this technique again? Picolo: Better question is..why am I not learning this? Humans: Indeed..why aren't any of us learning this again? For those who didn't get the joke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUIdITrKR4o Last edited by Sixth; 2016-03-04 at 19:19.

2016-03-05, 23:59	Link #1040
n0m@n C-Z Join Date: Jan 2011	Spoiler for 34: Frost, you betrayed my trust... Lol I was totally fooled.

2016-03-03, 09:09	Link #1026
ChainLegacy 廉頗 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Massachusetts Age: 34	I think it's very likely Goku will be back in some capacity. I don't see how giving him a second chance to fight, filling up the empty fifth slot, would work, though. Champa definitely wouldn't be on board for that, so someone on his team would need to do something to break the rules to justify it. Another option is Goku is done with the tournament, but like with the Buu saga, this tournament is only a prelude to a greater conflict, so Goku will have plenty of fighting chances if that's the case.

2016-03-03, 19:42	Link #1031
n0m@n C-Z Join Date: Jan 2011	I really dont want SSJ4 to appear in this series. That's just GT exclusive form which i want to stay that way. Nor do I want any future refference or a homeage to it in SUPER.

2016-03-05, 09:52	Link #1039
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	They're proud Martial Artists! They would never want to copy another fighter's technique. That's why most of them use the very unique Kamehameha. That said, I liked Team4Star's reasoning for this. If I recall, it was like, he gained the ability to use it from eating their food or something trite like that. Makes more sense than not teaching it to at least Gohan.